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[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago

To those suggesting the solution is to go farther left, you're delusional

The best thing you can hope for, is the farthest left, electable candidate

Based on the state of play, the winning ticket in 2028 I would project to be Manchin/Witmer

AOC is never going to be prez (unfortunately) in her lifetime. The country is not ready for that

In case you are doubting reality, note that a far-right populist just won the popular vote in a landslide, bury your head in the sand all you like, its not going to move your agenda forward

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 47 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I literally see voters saying the Democrats were too left leaning, jfc.

With parties like this, painful collapse is the only way to avoid multigenerational destitution.

There is no saving the United States as a framework. It is far too compromised, with too many methods installed to keep the people willfully ignorant and infighting as the owners suck their life forces dry for profit.

We can limp along and pretend that isn't the case, but climate change, aka the reality that doesn't give a shit about our self-delusion and greed worship, will force that collapse sooner rather than later. Reality can't be bribed, deluded, disappeared, or discredited.

Enjoy living in delusion that a society can function in capitalist competition against itself, the ability to do so is coming to an end.

[–] knova@infosec.pub 8 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I literally see voters saying the Democrats were too left leaning, jfc.

I think its important to ask the people saying that to name specific examples of HOW they were too left leaning. People just want to hurt someone now because they are hurt - it doesn't matter if they are punching left or right, if they perceive something as landing, it makes them feel better.

I am seeing Liberals online blaming minorities for not showing up when the reality is, across the board Dem voters didn't show up.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Thats why Im blaming all the dem voters who didnt show for not showing

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 2 hours ago

I think its important to ask the people saying that to name specific examples of HOW they were too left leaning.

When I do I get nonsense about hope and change and how leftists didn't show up when they should have to prevent fascism.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 8 points 7 hours ago

If only the consequences only applied to the people causing the issue. We're all in the blast radius. I hope I live long enough to see hope returning. So far it's just been a constant decline.

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 74 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

“To all those growing skeptical of this party’s strategies and overall agenda, let me just say we hear you loud and clear. Rest assured we will be doing everything short of interpreting that sound into words and responding to those words in any way shape or form.”

This is an all-timer.

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[–] GingerWitch@lemmy.world 15 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

Pffft!!! If your idea of "learning" is to copy any of the fascist ideas of trump, then yes, they should NOT learn anything. Did Jews after Hitler go fascist...... Oh wait.

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