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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 hours ago

Plenty of states offer free community and state college admission for residents; not saying the chart isn't right (and sad) but I hate the stigma that the only good colleges are for-profit private ones.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Trash country. Trash electorate.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

Oligarchies gonna ollygark.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Asterisk on Canada’s not free post secondary

The majority of the cost is paid for citizens so it’s still better than the US

[–] Cyclist@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Also I have paid sick days.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe a bronze. I went to a technical college in Canada (as a permanent resident), so by no means very expensive, but it's taken me over decade to pay off.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

I don’t think it medals but we aren’t tied with them

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago (7 children)

I've never worked a single job in the US that didn't have sick and vacation hours. Granted it was like 5 seconds allowed every 7 years but still.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Me neither, but in the US a business is not required to offer paid sick or vacation time, so it stands to reason that some don't. Actually I take part of that back - as a software developer I have done contracts for agencies that did not offer either. Of course the pay rate for contracting is so high it didn't matter to me, but the fact is they didn't.

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Well contract work is categorized different from "full time employment". I'm not saying it's right but I don't know of any contract gigs that give anything other than money.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Self employment is the big difference. There are agencies that deal with freelancers and others that hire people as employees and send them to client sites. I've worked for both kinds but when they offered benefits they weren't that great. I remember literally laughing out loud when I read one benefits brochure - the insurance cost like $3k a year and had an annual coverage ceiling of $7k. Maybe enough to cover one ambulance ride and ER visit lol.

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah I worked for a prestigious hospital years back, but through a contracting company so I couldn't even get medical from the hospital I worked at.

Eventually I got coverted over to an actual employee of the hospital, but I still couldn't afford their coverage because I wasn't making enough at the time lol.

Our medical industry is so fucked.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Neither of them are actually a legal requirement. What is offered is basically part of the "compensation package" (it's considered part of your pay) in the US. Also there are A LOT of jobs in the US that don't give paid sick time or vacation time, they are usually pretty far down the hierarchy though, and the jobs that do give paid time off typically don't give it to you until you have been employed there for at least a year.

I don't think this graphic is stating you cannot get any of these things in the US, but none of these things are guaranteed by the government.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

At least Illinois requires 40hr of pto/yr

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 8 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

i dont even have sick hours anymore its all pto. so if i get sick i just lose my vacation

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I used to work at a company that did this. White collar, but we would often work stat days, and we were salary. So our PTO was x days vacation time, y days stat days, and z days sick days. Vacation time was the legally mandated or higher, stat days were the legally mandated, and then sick days were on top of that (no legally mandated paid sick days where I live). If you got sick a lot (and actually didn't work anyway) you had less vacation time. If you didn't get sick a lot, you had more vacation time. If you worked some stat days, you had even more vacation time. It worked for everybody and meant there was no reason to worry if people were actually sick when they took a sick day - it was just unplanned PTO.

If you get additional PTO to allow for sick days, I'm not sure why you're complaining. That's a perspective issue. If you don't, I definitely get it.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

i dont get any additional PTO for sick days, so its basically get lucky enough to not get sick or never take a day off

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah that's a change that kinda sucks. If I'm sick just don't pay me for that day. Don't take it outta my vacation funds lol

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

my company used to do that but now that they went corporate if i call in sick and dont have vacation i get a point if i get too many points i get fired. i already have 3 because i got sick in december. absolute horseshit

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I hope you're able to find better work somewhere else man. That's total BS.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

got an interview monday so heres hoping lol

[–] stiephelando@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Not exactly sure what you mean in this context. Should I think about taking bigger vacations?

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I think they're saying that those conditions are still poor and you (as in everyone) should fight for more

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Yeah that makes more sense.

Yeah the data all shows and has shown for a long time that people do better work and have better morale when companies treat them better. Unfortunately it costs the companies a little money so GET BACK TO WORK ~~SLAVE~~ EMPLOYEE I DONT CARE IF YOU GET EVERYONE AT WORK SICK.

I will never understand why bosses want me to come into work and potentially take out EVEN more of your staff with illness lol. Like yeah your short handed if I'm gone. You're gonna be even more short handed when all three of your customer service staff get sick Becky.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

And many jobs also pay you health insurance. But the point is that in other countries, social security is not attached to your employment. If you get fired, you receive unemployment and health care until you get your next job (details and quality of social system vary per country though).

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Even if you have a job that pays for health insurance, it's still not as good as a universal health system with a single payer. There's deductibles to pay. In Canada, if I need to go to the ER, my biggest financial concern is paying for parking.

And even if you eliminate the deductibles, it's still not as good as a public health system because you also need to worry about whether a provider is in network and then your insurance company can just deny coverage because their whole point is to profit and not doing what their stated purpose is is an easy way to make more profit.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

There are different models. For example in Portugal and in the UK there's public health system where you have the right to health care as a citizen, and it's paid by social security, which is a tax on you income. In Germany you instead have mandatory insurance, but the government pays for you if you can't. This you pay a % of your salary but it's not considered a tax. In the end it's just different models of the same thing.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Are the insurance providers in Germany public or for-profit private entities?

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[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 30 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

We need to stop calling it “free” college. It’s not free. It’s a worthwhile investment we all pay for and reap the benefits of.

We don’t call it a “free military.”

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 10 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

College is free, uni isn't

Not our fault just one country uses the word incorrectly

[–] thisismyname@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Uni is free if you live in a sane part of the UK

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[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 hours ago

Wait usa doesn't have any of that? Lefties, let them have the country, it was never worth a damn anyway.

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 59 points 16 hours ago (22 children)

It's not strictly true collage or university as it's know in the rest of the world, in the UK it's only Scotland that gets free tuition, not the rest of us, higher education which is 16-18 is free

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[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago
[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

College is almost free in Québec, CA. You just pay administration fees, I believe around 200-300$ CAD for a semester.

[–] RickyWars@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

When they write "college" in the image I think they mean university, not CEGEP. University is still a good ways from free, being $4k-$5k/yr. And that's just for in province students, it's more for non-Quebec but still Canadian students.

In Germany (and maybe the other listed countries but I'm less informed on them), university is free as well. I think it also doesn't depend which state you're from.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

Indeed University is way more expensive. 5k/yr is nothing like US but definitely not free. It actually took me 10+ years to pay back my student loan...

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 29 points 16 hours ago

But renaming mountains and bodies of water are going to solve all of that, our orange god king told us so.

/s if it’s not obvious

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