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[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Neither of them are actually a legal requirement. What is offered is basically part of the "compensation package" (it's considered part of your pay) in the US. Also there are A LOT of jobs in the US that don't give paid sick time or vacation time, they are usually pretty far down the hierarchy though, and the jobs that do give paid time off typically don't give it to you until you have been employed there for at least a year.

I don't think this graphic is stating you cannot get any of these things in the US, but none of these things are guaranteed by the government.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

At least Illinois requires 40hr of pto/yr

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Shit that's crap. That includes all sick days and emergency care of dependents, and bosses get arsey if you take any holiday, right?

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Yup. Plus many workplaces have a points system for tardiness or calling off.

Late by 5 minutes = 1/2 point and 5/6 points you're fired. Points drop off after one year.

There's something called FMLA (family medical leave act) which you can use to take additional time off to care for a family member, but it's unpaid.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Uuuuuhhhhh. Then you have 0 pto/y.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago

They automatically take your PTO if you call in or are late and you must exhaust your PTO before you can take FMLA. Yeah.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, that's why Americans are pissed off all the time.

[–] Nfamwap@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

40 hours? For real?

UK'er here. I get 230 hours of annual leave per year, fully paid. I pay less tax and national insurance on days off, so I actually earn more for not being at work, go figure. 6 months sick at full pay, 6 months at half pay. 4-day week, 36 hours.

When you factor in weekends and bank holidays, I work a grand total of 175 days per year.

As a percentage of the entire hours in a year, I spend just under 19% of them at work. It feels like so much more, but you guys, man, you have it so much worse.

America, land of the free? My arse.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

They just passed that last year. Other states have no requirements to offer you any kind of time off. It's up to you to figure this stuff out when you apply for a job. They generally put some info in the job ad, but it's usually vague. "Two weeks vacation" "health, dental, vision insurance" 401k.

That doesn't tell you anything because there are too many variables to consider. Some companies make you take an entire day off, others have Paid Time Off hours that accrue at a certain rate depending on how long you've been working there, some require you to take at least a certain amount off at a time, some let you use a single hour. Health insurance is a minefield, could be a high deductible plan with a deductible and then you pay a percentage up to your out of pocket max. Sometimes the individual cost is minimal and then jumps considerably for dependents. Dental can cover certain things and not others. Sometimes they will only match your retirement contributions at 50% up to 6% sometimes they'll match them dollar for dollar.

It's a system that makes it difficult to leave a shitty job.

Part time workers rarely get any benefits.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

28 vacation days/y + holidays. I think 38 pto/y total. In post-Soviet Russia. USSA can't manage be on par with Russia.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

That's just a minimum. Some work places give you more, some don't.

But yeah, it's bullshit.