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[-] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 44 points 2 days ago

I assumed it was a joke. My feed has been full of jokes about her talking about urban planning and transit oriented development.

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[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 36 points 2 days ago

I'm sure as shit trusting proton over some random public network in a cafe setup by some random open reach engineer or something

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They have 54% one star reviews on TrustPilot

But none that I saw were about security/privacy instead just comments about pricing.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 32 points 2 days ago

Don't hire that contractor lol

[-] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 59 points 2 days ago

obviously the shitty VPNs like NordSurshark, TorGuard, Tunnelbear, cyberghost and PrivateInternetExpress suck...pretty much every VPN that's part of some giant conglomerate sucks ass in terms of privacy and security

But then there's iVPN, Mullvad and ProtonVPN and even Adguard VPN which do very little to no advertising at all and allow their products to speak for themselves. I mean...Kitboga and RionaPoison are sponsored by Proton, but Proton is a good company that takes their security and the security of their swiss-law-abiding users very seriously.

Don't be a scumbag and Proton won't snitch on you.

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The VPNs you characterise as "shitty" aren't necessarily a bad choice; they're cheaper than the legitimate privacy VPNs. Mullvad is famously 5€ per month, Proton is 4.49€ per month, but NordVPN is 3.09€, Surfshark is 2.19€, and PIA is 1.79€ per month.

If you're really just here to pretend you're in another country (rather than privatemaxing) or hide your torrenting activity from your ISP, the cheaper options can be a perfectly legitimate choice.

[-] 01011@monero.town 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Mullvad doesn't try and lock you in with any auto-renewal shenanigans and was the second service that I know of to offer payment via xmr. The first was ivpn but their server speeds were trash.

[-] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 hours ago

The first was ivpn but their server speeds were trash.

Their server speeds are great now. I tried them. They just have a very small number of servers compared to those other three

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

That's true. Mullvad will even let you send cash by post to them which is definitely not something you can do with other services.

However, in terms of private payment options, you can always use BTC's Lightning Network with the other options if that concerns you.

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[-] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 hours ago

they do. They also accept bitcoin

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It seems you're right. I did not know that.

[-] theonetruedroid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Love it. If you want to stay anonymous, might as well go the whole way. Granted TOR should not be used with a VPN.

[-] visnae@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago
[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago

Bear in mind that info hasn't been updated since 2019, when the OG thatoneprivacysite sold out to a shady company. The .xyz site is an old backup someone put up of the site before it changed to only recommend a handful of bad VPNs.

[-] 01011@monero.town 3 points 1 day ago

Is there a more recent guide that you'd recommend?

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

Perhaps Privacyguides.org, but I'm not aware of a replacement for the exhausting level of detail and breadth which thatoneprivacysite once provided.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 133 points 3 days ago

I don't know how effective VPNs are over a public WiFi network, but I do know it stopped Spectrum from sending me "you are downloading copyrighted material, stop it" emails once I started using one. Fuck Spectrum, I don't have them anymore, but that seems like a good enough reason to keep using one in certain circumstances.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

All ISPs are legally obligated to forward that shit to you. The alerts are not from spectrum, they're just relaying the information.

Right now, copyright owners do not have legal permission to find out who you are directly without a court order. They would only seek that information if they were planning to file a lawsuit.

Media companies know, from the Napster incident, that such actions can backfire stupendously. It's rare that they even bother anymore. I can go into detail on why, but I'll leave it out for brevity.

So they send the notice to your ISP, who is legally obligated to match the information on the notice to the subscriber and forward the notice to you.

For many, this goes to an ISP provided mailbox, which most people ignore the existence of it. Clearly spectrum operates differently.

The notices are from copyright holders who have no idea who you are, and can't determine that information unless they intend to sue you. So those can be, for the most part, ignored.

It's not your ISPs fault that you got those. They couldn't give a shit less about what you do on their service, or what you download. They just want you to pay your bill every month and keep the gravy train rolling.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I'm saying fuck Spectrum for other reasons. Either way, there's less of a trail.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Fair enough. I haven't used spectrum, so I have no opinion. I'm not in the right country to subscribe to their service, so there's that.

Have a good day.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Spectrum is a total shit ISP that does shady shit constantly, while being owned by a massive corporation run by a Trump supporter and unfortunately is the only option people have in a lot of places in the U.S.

Anyway, good talk. You have a good day too!

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 52 points 2 days ago

They need to advertise a legitimate use for their service.

If they don't have a threat from public wifi or other security concerns to remedy, then the only purpose for their service is to bypass region limits and block infringement notices. They would be considered complicit in such infringement.

That their service also hinders efforts to stop pirates needs to be an "unintended" and "unavoidable" side effect.

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[-] r00ty@kbin.life 35 points 3 days ago

On public WiFi I just vpn into my home network. The issue with public WiFi is that it can be sniffed by anyone in range since there is generally no encryption.

Although pretty much everything we do is over tls these days, and DoH helps protect against even dns sniffing. There's still at least some risk to working in the clear over a public WiFi network. At least in information gathering, what bank you use, etc.

But, there's no real benefit in using a paid vpn over one you own unless you're downloading illegal content, want to watch another Netflix region, or are in a country with heavy Internet monitoring/filtering.

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[-] moon@lemmy.cafe 377 points 3 days ago

What is he talking about, public WiFi can easily poison and monitor your DNS requests (most people don't know or use encrypted DNS), and there's still tons of non-https traffic leaks all over the place that are plain text. Even if encrypted, there's still deep packet inspection. VPNs can mitigate DPI techniques and shift the trust from an easily snoopable public WiFi to the VPN's more trustworthy exit servers.

This guy really needs to elaborate on what he's trying to say when the cyber security field very much disagrees with this stance. I'm not a huge fan of Proton, but they aren't doing anything wrong here. You should use it for public Wi-Fi.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 73 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yup. You can grab any unencrypted data passed between the user's browser and a server literally out of thin air when they're connected to an open access point. You sit happily at the Starbucks with your laptop, sniffing them WiFi packets and grabbing things off of them.

Oh and you have no idea what the myriad of apps you're using are connecting to and whether that endpoint is encrypted. Do not underestimate the ability of firms to produce software at the absolute lowest cost with corners and walls missing.

If I was someone who was to make money off of scamming people, one thing I'd have tried to do is to rig portable sniffers at public locations with large foot traffic and open WiFi like train stations, airports, etc. Throw em around then filter for interesting stuff. Oh here's some personal info. Oh there's a session token for some app. Let me see what else I can get from that app for that person.

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[-] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago

I have a vpn for... reasons... 🏴‍☠️⚓️🏴‍☠️

[-] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 18 points 2 days ago

I have VPN so I can look at porn.

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[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 146 points 3 days ago

When I first saw this I thought it was funny. The fact that so many people are falling for it has only made it even funnier.

FWIW, Haley Welch might seem dumb as bricks, but she also seems quite sweet - doing charity stuff, keeping her other friend from "that" vid for the ride, etc. As far as people becoming famous for bullshit reasons goes, she seems to be handling it well.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 95 points 3 days ago

I feel bad for her, honestly. She was open about her sexuality and she's conventionally attractive, so now she has all these leering old men on TV slobbering all over her.

Bill Maher practically tried to talk her into bed on his show with his creepy shit about mentoring her.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You know, you're the first person I've seen that's shared the same view as me (not that I've spoken about the topic much! lol)

Woman admits that she has performed an extremely benign sexual act before - ghasp! A girl has given someone a blowjob before!

And more than that, she has a "dumb" accent! Let's make endless memes about her online basically calling her a slutty moron whose only life skill is sucking cock.

Honestly no wonder women feel pressured to pretend they have no sexual desires

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[-] Urist@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 days ago

Oof. What is up with these creepy, sweaty dudes on talkshows? I know they somewhat reflect the general populace, but to pull shit like this on air is just boggling.

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[-] RiQuY@lemm.ee 74 points 3 days ago

I don't understand why everyone assumes using a VPN means paying for a third party. I have Wireguard deployed in my NAS and I always have that VPN connection active on my phone to be able to access my LAN deployed services remotely, Jellyfin for example.

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[-] MisterMoo@lemmy.world 87 points 3 days ago

I’m not online enough to understand this.

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[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 93 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Considering how most of the Internet is encrypted with TLS, if you add DNSSEC+DoH/DoT on top, trying to MITM someone on a public WiFi is way harder than it was, unless you're a state-level adversary and you're able to craft valid certificate for a domain you don't control from a globally trusted (root) certificate autority (which will lose its trusted status quite fast once discovered, ex: CNNIC)

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[-] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

Can someone share proton's response? I don't have a xitter account

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