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[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 11 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

This is completely off topic I think but I need you all to see this, it's important on a spiritual level

This map is infinitely sneerable, every region you look at is somehow worse than the previous one, regardless of the order in which you do that.

Tag yourself, I'm Cracked Coast, population 17.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 13 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

someone needs to stop paradox gamers from interfacing with the real world

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Yeah people who make maps like this seem to miss the whole point, borders are rigid, populations are fluid. And even paradox games seem to understand this with various mechanics. (which then tend to take a bit of a genocidal undertone (see the 1 culture speedruns)). E: anyway, due to the massive population in the benelux (30m) and the relative small weak neighbors, this is the best start on this map).

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't there a huge neo-nazi subculture around Paradox games, with weird mods and stuff?

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

As a bit of a map painter, Paradox themselves nowadays takes a pretty anti neo-nazi stance. And most public places do so as well (this was a relatively recent change btw, people didn't seem to notice just how bad remove kebab memes etc were). There is sadly the general undertone of 'ironic' far right meme culture which is pervasive in gaming. So that will always be a problem. So neo-nazis not so much, but people making jokes about genocide, and the high risk of your fave content creator suddenly going some weird anti leftwing/culture war rant which makes it clear he (it is always a he) knows nothing yes very much. No idea how much of these people are crypto-fascists or not, as the rest of the space does seem welcoming to trans people and women. (this is my view of the general paradox gaming culture places I have been into, I'm not denying there are neo-nazi groups into paradox games, they just don't seem to be overt or liked vs the general edgelord gamer types).

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for expanding. I think every company that has a biggish community has to deal with nazi entryism.

This was the story I remembered about this

https://kotaku.com/the-struggle-over-gamers-who-use-mods-to-create-racist-1826606138

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah that is certainly a problem, but at least they are kicking the neo-nazi mods/groups out. (Which sadly on steam is a community thing, steam itself doesn't seem to care (just the amount of open transphobia on the forums can be quite much, esp when outsiders decide something is 'woke')). Openly doing this sort of stuff (esp on hoi4) seems to be pretty disliked.

While I have not kept up with it, stellaris had a bit of a bigger crypto-fascist entryism problem. On reddit there used to be a lot xenophobic authoritarian anime girl mod nations posts. And the Xeno-Compatibility perk (basically interbreeding between species) got a bad rep in the reputation to (at least in the past, think it is fixed but the rep remains) causing lot of late game lag. Which the crypto fascists and edgy bros jumped onto.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Unifying belgium and the Netherlands makes me think really bad things about the map designers. People who want that are either fools who dont know much about the region or white nationalist fascists. (They often also want SA included)

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

caucasus would be even bigger shitshow than it is now. no chechenia or ingushetia, but azerbaijan has now half of current armenian land + iranian province of the same name. that's weirdly specific and suspicious

Wait, do you mean new Armenia or Old Armenia? I'm not fluent in the region. But I'm sure Turkiye will be happy to surrender territory to Old Armenia after denying that whole affair for the last ~100 years.

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 12 points 4 weeks ago

Ah yes Africa, the small country on the northern coast of Africa.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

There is no Poland, which unfortunately tracks, historically.

I can see Denmark having Scania now, which is what a lot of the more racist Scanians have wanted since forever. But you can't just split Sweden (Sverige, Svea Rike) into Sweden and Svealand, which isn't even historically correct (it's way too big).

Also Ulster being 50% of the island of Eire is gonna work out great.

Sweden/Svealand is one of many examples here of "where do you think the name came from?" for neighboring regions. My favorite example of this pattern is probably Finland, though. Helsinki is it's own thing, and we get both Finland and Finnmark. Truly outstanding.

[–] ibt3321@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Why does the region around Armenia look so unchanged? Why is Transylvania in Ukraine? Italy becomes Romania, ok I've had enough

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] gerikson@awful.systems 9 points 4 weeks ago

To be fair there are lots of forests one can be on other side of in Eurasia...

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 9 points 4 weeks ago

Only feed the Transylvania you want to become.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Italy becomes Romania

Not to mention that Romania (unrelated to the modern country) was an endonym for the Constantinople-led eastern roman empire, basically Greek for Roman-land.

So yeah, the closer you look the wronger it gets.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I like how the Spanish coast is in Africa. Also, Kyiv and Helsinki are their own city-states (or autonomous post-state administrative zones or whatever) but Rome, London, Munich, etc. aren't.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 8 points 4 weeks ago

You missed the most beautiful city-state of OSTBREST

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Kind of interested in the precise type of brainworms that result in Greece annexing Northern Epirus from Albania but think Thrace should be its own thing.

[–] maol@awful.systems 4 points 3 weeks ago

I'm scared of Big Ulster