If we can resolve the ethical complications of AI, I agree, AI could be a net-positive, beneficial tool for learning and accessibility. Suno isn't really that, though. It's more like a vending machine.
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Maybe you're right, and as for people like yourself, who already know the emperor has no clothes, you don't need to have to look at his nakedness. Others need to see him make a fool of himself. As for me, I like galvanizing people around these issues.
Dude, you're the one drawing the lines at who gets to call themselves a musician and who is just a "different kind" of artist. As an "akshul" musician, by your definition, I think you're mistaken and parroting some reactionary takes.
A few years ago, I switched from Logic to Reaper and haven't looked back. Reaper may not be particularly pretty, but it is incredibly powerful. If Reaper's look is a drag for you though, try out some different themes, like the Reapertips theme. Reaper is also cross-platform, so you aren't beholden to macOS or Windows, and it runs on Linux.
Every now and then I feel a bit of envy for the modular sound design I see people do in Ableton or Bitwig, but there's very little that I haven't been able to replicate in Reaper, and when I need to, I use Cardinal for more intense modular sound design.
Antivax pseudo-scientists:
Boomer take. I'm a musician of two decades, got my degree in music. Sampling is as much an art and practice as playing a "traditional" instrument—I do both.
Are there lazy samplists? Sure, just as there are lazy guitarists. But watch this and tell me this isn't musicianship. https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=sKMDP-vDsTU
Probably for the best. The whole TV is ruined at that point. Turn it into parts. Like ripping up a tract that got passed to you by somebody in a cult, you're doing humanity a favor.
I believe you're mistaken. You have fallen for the pro-Karen Bass propaganda.
Yes, and I live in LA. I'm a handful of blocks away from the evac warning perimeter. The message is not that budget cuts caused the fire. We who have lived here have seen the fires get worse every year because of climate change. The message is that our mayor's tough-on-crime politics are to the detriment of public safety and our actual, material needs as Angelenos.
Whoa nice, thanks for the advice. I'll share it at the next city council. If you're not aware, Los Angeles is literally on like 5 different fires right now. Given all the fires we've had here in LA in recent years, our mayor decided it was a good thing during an era of increasingly more frequent climate disasters to slash our fire budget to fund the cops.
This is how I understand what you're saying: Over here we have the "musicians," a title reserved for only those who play an instrument. On the other hand we have the "producers," who make music on a computer, without an "instrument."
But I say both make human music. And a computer can be an instrument. Drawing notes in MIDI is not much different than composing in Musescore. The producer is not unlike the classical composer, and I say both are musicians. And in a discussion on AI music vs. human music, why should we make a false dichotomy within human music anyway? "All models are wrong, but some are useful," said George E. P. Box, statistician.
I think people have taken you as arguing in bad faith. I, and I assume many others, would agree with you that Suno AI is bad. I think AI is ethically uncouth. But your original comment seems to be making a false equivalency between AI music and sampling. I think I understand what you mean better, but I still disagree with your premise and think it's a weak argument for fighting AI.