BerenstainsMonster

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This is how I understand what you're saying: Over here we have the "musicians," a title reserved for only those who play an instrument. On the other hand we have the "producers," who make music on a computer, without an "instrument."

But I say both make human music. And a computer can be an instrument. Drawing notes in MIDI is not much different than composing in Musescore. The producer is not unlike the classical composer, and I say both are musicians. And in a discussion on AI music vs. human music, why should we make a false dichotomy within human music anyway? "All models are wrong, but some are useful," said George E. P. Box, statistician.

I think people have taken you as arguing in bad faith. I, and I assume many others, would agree with you that Suno AI is bad. I think AI is ethically uncouth. But your original comment seems to be making a false equivalency between AI music and sampling. I think I understand what you mean better, but I still disagree with your premise and think it's a weak argument for fighting AI.

 

I've been pondering ways to run my guitar through VCV Rack or Cardinal, and of course Sarah Belle Reid had this inspiring demonstration.

If we can resolve the ethical complications of AI, I agree, AI could be a net-positive, beneficial tool for learning and accessibility. Suno isn't really that, though. It's more like a vending machine.

Maybe you're right, and as for people like yourself, who already know the emperor has no clothes, you don't need to have to look at his nakedness. Others need to see him make a fool of himself. As for me, I like galvanizing people around these issues.

[–] BerenstainsMonster@kbin.earth 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Dude, you're the one drawing the lines at who gets to call themselves a musician and who is just a "different kind" of artist. As an "akshul" musician, by your definition, I think you're mistaken and parroting some reactionary takes.

[–] BerenstainsMonster@kbin.earth 2 points 18 hours ago

A few years ago, I switched from Logic to Reaper and haven't looked back. Reaper may not be particularly pretty, but it is incredibly powerful. If Reaper's look is a drag for you though, try out some different themes, like the Reapertips theme. Reaper is also cross-platform, so you aren't beholden to macOS or Windows, and it runs on Linux.

Every now and then I feel a bit of envy for the modular sound design I see people do in Ableton or Bitwig, but there's very little that I haven't been able to replicate in Reaper, and when I need to, I use Cardinal for more intense modular sound design.

 

Mikey Shulman, the CEO of AI music generator company Suno AI, argued that most people don't enjoy the "majority of time" making music.

[–] BerenstainsMonster@kbin.earth 2 points 19 hours ago

Antivax pseudo-scientists:

[–] BerenstainsMonster@kbin.earth 30 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

Boomer take. I'm a musician of two decades, got my degree in music. Sampling is as much an art and practice as playing a "traditional" instrument—I do both.

Are there lazy samplists? Sure, just as there are lazy guitarists. But watch this and tell me this isn't musicianship. https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=sKMDP-vDsTU

Probably for the best. The whole TV is ruined at that point. Turn it into parts. Like ripping up a tract that got passed to you by somebody in a cult, you're doing humanity a favor.

I believe you're mistaken. You have fallen for the pro-Karen Bass propaganda.

[–] BerenstainsMonster@kbin.earth 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, and I live in LA. I'm a handful of blocks away from the evac warning perimeter. The message is not that budget cuts caused the fire. We who have lived here have seen the fires get worse every year because of climate change. The message is that our mayor's tough-on-crime politics are to the detriment of public safety and our actual, material needs as Angelenos.

 

Whoa nice, thanks for the advice. I'll share it at the next city council. If you're not aware, Los Angeles is literally on like 5 different fires right now. Given all the fires we've had here in LA in recent years, our mayor decided it was a good thing during an era of increasingly more frequent climate disasters to slash our fire budget to fund the cops.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Another cross-post from my blog.

There is much ado about fancy mics among musicians and engineers, just as there is much ado about fancy guitars among guitarists. And don’t get me wrong, these instruments can certainly sound inspiring. However, any guitarist worth trusting will tell you that so long as the instrument isn’t unplayable, you can make great music with it (and some have written and even recorded with beater guitars).

It’s not so much about the mic as it is the engineer. Having been through a handful of mics so far, I have not been rid of my “touch” with a microphone. It always sounds like me, whether I like it or not. I’m choosing to let myself like it.

I once heard Tina Weymouth share at a Q&A, “If you have ears, you can make anything sound good, if you’re enjoying it.”

 

Cross-posting this from my blog. You can hear an audio demo of the technique there.

I've been thinking a lot about the importance of silence in music, and I dreamed up this technique, using a sequencer to more-or-less randomly mute a signal. The idea was to program a beat but then have the sequence be periodically interrupted by silence. I was partly inspired by this tai hirose track.

Now you could just as well make cuts by hand, in post, with the mouse. But where's the fun in that? As the title suggests, I wanted something more generative.

In Reaper, we can use Gerraint Luff's MIDI Gate plugin to trigger mutes or gates. Insert it on a track, feed it some MIDI, and depending on the mode, it will mute the channel whenever it receives MIDI information (or whenever it doesn't, if it's in gate mode).

To set this up, I followed Reaper Blog's MIDI Gate tutorial. In short, I programmed a kick drum part, then sent the audio only (not MIDI, which is important) to a receive track, and muted the former track's master output. On the receive track, I inserted a sequencer plugin and the MIDI Gate, one after the other. I made a simple MIDI sequence to trigger the gate. Since my original kick drum pattern was in 4/4, and since I wanted a semi-random sound, my gate trigger sequence was a 3/4 loop, which resulted in polymetric mutes. (Next time I experiment with this, I plan to use a truly random sequencer from Cardinal or something.)

The result is a groovy kick drum part that doesn't finish its sentence sometimes. I did the same on the tops percussion part, experimenting with MIDI Gate in mute mode or gate mode to see which I liked better. For added polish, because I noticed that sometimes MIDI Gate would let just the tiny blip of the first transient through, I inserted a plain old gate plugin next in the chain to cut out any tiny blips below a certain volume threshold. I then added a hi hat loop and played some nylon guitar over it so the track would feel a little more tethered to 4/4.

The neat thing about this semi-generative approach is the element of chance. Sometimes the kick plays where I programmed it to, sometimes not. The trouble with making music in the DAW is having too much control. But the joy is when you can find ways to forfeit that control in ways that are unique to the DAW workflow. Electronic musician Jlin says in an interview, "Not having control and not knowing what I'm going to create is the beauty of how the track is made. Not only the beauty of it, but the, also is the necessity of how, and why it gets made, because I don't have control."

 
 
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