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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

my plan is to take all the fascists and read them Harry Potter and explain how they're the Slytherins and liberals are the Gryffindors

meanwhile you tankies are the death eaters

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

hardcore goth vibes hell yeah marx-goth

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Critical support to the guy who kidnapped a racist and made her watch all of Roots then let her go though

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Someone did that? Lmao good praxis

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

I have no idea and no source, but I definitely heard that once so I'm believing it's true

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago
[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago (4 children)

lol don't fashies love American History X because "omg look at the cool badass Nazi putting that [n-word] in his place"

I immediately thought of a virulent racist that loves that movie.

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100% this.

My dad was a neonazi and American History X was one of his favourite movies (along with a locally produced movie about neonazis which follows along similar lines to American History X, although it was made decades prior) because he saw it as representation of his views.

He didn't give a fuck about the moralising twist at the end of these movies. He literally just enjoyed the fact that he was being represented in movies.

He was completely unreceptive to "the message" of these movies. It did zero to change his views.

Fucken libs, man... they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. Just because they received a particular message from a movie that resonated with them doesn't mean that it's going to be the same for everyone.

This is classic LibBrain bullshit. They do the same thing by universalising their attitude towards government or their experience of society and just assuming that everyone feels the same way and has the same experience of things that they do, based on zero real-world experience and investigation.

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have said it before and I will say it again: one funny black guy making a neo nazi not racist anymore is the lib equivalent of evangelical media portraying convincing others to convert to Christianity as easy.

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same deal with the bazingas that see the Galactic Empire in Star Wars as "based" and even say "it would actually be great to live under it if you obeyed the law." grillman

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think that joke started from the fact that the republic had slavery and the empire didn't. Sadly it kinda quickly stopped being a joke. It's also interesting how we're sorta presented with a Dems Vs republicans in that meme - there's either the republic or the empire, there is no third option despite the three first films being about a rebellion working to create something new.
Then of course JJ shits the bed with his mystery box and "Skywalker saga"

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and the empire didn't

citations-needed

They were pretty fucking brutal with the Wookiees for one, and that goes back to old 1970s canon including the Star Wars Holiday Special. If they weren't enslaved, they were definitely being given "reservation" treatment on their own home planet.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh yeah for sure. I'm not really up on my star wars lore. As far as I understand it the joke sort of started because Anakin and his mother is a slave in I, but there's no "slaves" in the original trilogy, which then makes people wonder how that is, which leads to a humorous observation.

The text is pretty clear that the empire is worse than the republic, but that's the joke I guess
"Sure the text says the empire is worse, but the republic had slaves haha funny observation".
Then people sort of started running with it and you end up with unironic empire stans.

Like it's just a silly joke noticing one discrepancy (slaves Vs no slaves) without focusing on the bigger picture (brutal political repression, genocide of minorities, apartheid regime, religious repression, etc.).
I don't think it was meant as something that could stand up to scrutiny, which is also why it's so strange it led to actual empire stans.
It's also what makes it more ironic to me because the empire stans go "well the empire was better than the republic" (never mind wether it was or not) and completely ignore the rebellion posing a viable alternative

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

the joke sort of started because Anakin and his mother is a slave in I

very-intelligent Well, ackshually, Tatooine wasn't part of the Republic, so that doesn't count as slavery in the Republic.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but there's no "slaves" in the original trilogy

So the woman chained up in Jabba's palace until she was fed to the rancor wasn't a slave? what

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, I'm not saying it's good or correct or anything. It's a simple joke, as I've said. It doesn't hold up to any scrutiny.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

It's a glaring on-screen omission that the reactionary meme missed from the start so I'm baffled.

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[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Yes, and the director realized this at some point, tried to use the Allen Smithee name to get his name off of it, but it was too late.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The premise of American History X doesn't even bear out this stupid fucking idea. The story isn't about a guy watching a movie-as-cautionary-tale. It's about a neo nazi idealist who has his ideology crushed to smithereens by the consequences he endured as a direct result of that ideology. Fascism came home and ruined his life and his family. He hit rock bottom.

You know what also has a rock bottom? The pit

The story of redemption isn't him just leaving the life. It's also him trying to save his brother and other disaffected kids from doing the same. He is going to live a life trapped inside the box his younger self placed him in. He's out of the prison he didn't make and now inside the one he did make. He'll be there forever or until fascism dies.

I might not be the smartest about analyzing film but I always thought the entire point was that he couldn't call it even just because he called it quits. There was work to be done.

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

maybe-later-honey "Noooo, killing Nazis makes you just as hateful as the Nazis!", I yell, as my black and queer neighbors are being arrested and transported to a nearby Nazi concentration camp for being untermenschen.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

The LIB habit of accusing people that disagree with them of mental illness, with the implication that mental illness makes them bad and despicable people, is far, far too common. guts-rage

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

AHX is a terrible film to deradicalize someone with. It doesn't actually even begin to address why the viewer should not be fascist.

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

it's also beloved by neonazis lmao what a peak liberalism moment

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

I don't have a plan at all but I know someone smarter than me can come up with one.

Oh wait someone smarter than me DID come up with one? Okay but not that one!

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I always enjoy reminding people how actual nazis were treated by liberals i.e. with kid gloves.

cw for the link: mentions of bbq'ed nazi and a lot of handwringing about sorting the fash into harry potter houses instead of actually judging them for their crimes:

"I remember talking to Soviet officers," he adds. "And they were baffled. "You know they're guilty," they'd say. 'Why don't you just shoot them?'" There was a lot of that kind of feeling in postwar Germany."

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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How authoritarian to make someone watch a movie

That's what they do in North Korea, they make you watch the movies that Dear Leader made with kidnapped movie stars and if you don't clap at the end, your seat flips upside down and drops you into a cave where you're forced to mine popcorn the rest of your life

[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

mine popcorn

jfc, what I would do for a popcorn mine. I would go there for a week every month with a wheelbarrow of chocolate and some pillows and my pickaxe, and the world would be a better place for everyone.

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[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nazis fucking love American History X. They look up to the main character, see him as a badass.

[–] happybirthdaygonzolo@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I watched American history x in high school everyone clapped when the white kid was shot.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago
[–] Judge_Jury@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Most Americans are mentally ill because they can't afford to see a therapist.

I hate everything about this sentence.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

I'm all for the Puyi treatment for fascists but also I'm not gonna cry too hard if they insist on the wall instead.

[–] Tidal_Tempest@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They just need to watch one movie and they will stop hating jews, gays, blacks, women, etc. so-true

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

A movie starring a guy Nazis consider an icon no less.

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[–] RollaD20@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Of course, when the evil commies suggest re-education or de-radicalization of far right elements they are being evil authoritarians and are brainwashing people. No way to win with these folk. their anti-communism overrides everything else.

[–] mittens@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

ok mr hitler you're hereby sentenced to movie night

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

This is why we won WW2 by showing massive screenings of To Kill a Mockingbird

[–] happybirthdaygonzolo@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Broke: kill all nazis

Woke: we are going after the liberals when theres no more nazis

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This reeks of fedposting I'm sorry, or maybe I'm misunderstanding.
Are you implying you'd like to see a society wherein we murder liberals?

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[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Fuckin liberals man, god damn…

[–] axont@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Someone in that exchange made a good point that seems to work on liberals. Ask them what should be done with pedophiles. Should we just let them organize and spread their influence? Should we allow them to march in the street or talk to children?

Or should there be a system of punishment and/or re-education to deal with them

Liberals are so forgiving of Nazis in a way that's just ludicrous. Part of it is they don't see fascists as a threat. They don't see anything as a threat (except maybe the concept of Russia itself). Everything's just fine and cool, this is the best time in human history, we just a few minor tweeks and history is over.

[–] ComRed2@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You see the reason why hitler happened is because people didn't not hate him strong enough.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

If only we'd let him talk, people would see how silly his ideas were!
looks at nurenberg
looks at his trial after the putsch
no not like that

[–] ScienceBear@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

You're laughing. He presents you with the cure that brought Ye back and you're laughing. joker-troll

[–] motherfucker@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

You can purge them from the military. You can purge them from government positions. I wonder why no one’s done that already 🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐

It’s probably just that no one’s ever thought of it

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