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No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Gossip posts go in c/gossip. Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from c/gossip
And we shouldn't allow this concept to go unchallenged here on Lemmy.
Commenting on an active post is not brigading
Posting a link to something is not brigading
Commenting on something you were linked to is not brigading
The only thing that might be brigading, but isn't because it isn't a real thing, is someone explicitly going, "Hey everyone, go here and harass this person"
It's all fine and good that we have some new rules to keep the peace with other instances but we must fight against 
Wait till the realization sinks in that this is just the normal, organic amount of engagement they get from us because we're by far the most active lemmy instance
People have been saying for years "soon, they will stop soon"
And I just say See you in 3 more years, let us know what you think
In retrospect, it's funny how the liberals on lemmy.ml were haughtily saying "This may have been a tankie space once, but we will overwhelm them eventually and make it clear that they aren't welcome here" and then Hexbear comes in and they shit themselves.
they thought the reddit wave would be bigger but it turns out redditors like feeling smug more than actually leaving the corporate walled garden. so they aren't thaaat big and a good % of those who did come here are at least vaguely leftist. That plus hexbear=no more unchallenged "ebil seeseepee" type circlejerks
It's extremely weird. Like I'm just commenting on what appears on my all page, how is that brigading? It's literally a feature of the website.
Counterpoint: I'm a huge baby.
Didn't think of that one, did ya, pinko!?
Liberals are used to games with rigged rules ("""International Rules Based Order"""🙄) and when the playing field is level it feels to them like everyone else is suddenly cheating
Literally every dog pile I have seen has been some nerd talking shit, a chapo or 2 posting in good faith, the nerd says something extra stupid... nerd gets dog piled.
you see, when I call you a Chinese bot, or fake Russian names I'm being a very reasonable discussion partner
when you call me out for being a weird racist it's brigading, trolling, 4chan, and the type of behavior that needs to be defederated from
Death to Russia = non-political
Death to NATO = I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS TYPE OF COMMENT
Usually its 2-3 chapos calling someone a dipshit lib for posting a bad take, and then someone comes along with an nice effortpost an hour or so later.
Like, i approve of it, people get too used to not being called a dipshit. But newgangs first posters on the scene usually come in hot.
But newgangs first posters on the scene usually come in hot.
New gang has been advised to tell you to talk to our lawyer.
As usual, liberals just use different words when they like some vs. when they don't. When they don't like it? Brigading! When they do? Just raising concerns, I hate those red fash tankies.
PS they are envious of our knack for a self-organized united front.
Their culture is so snarky and anti-collaboration, they get pissy with each other nearly as much as they do with us, and they don't engage any differently in either case. I really do feel bad for these people who are trapped in the atomized, all against all social paradigm of the new internet.
they get pissy with each other nearly as much as they do with us, and they don't engage any differently in either case
I'm still new to Hexbear and this has been the biggest striking difference for me coming from liberal spaces. I've seen multiple arguments on hexbear, and honestly, I had a hard time at first seeing that they were civil disagreements and not just jokes.
Edit: I think maybe because in the liberal spaces, to open up like that in good faith is just an invitation to get shit on for going outside the norm. Whereas here you'll get engaged with in good faith and it's just a much more positive experience that actually allows for civil disagreement.
Goofy emojis help, as does the anti-debatelord 
culture
I really like not having a downvote button. Keeps the cowards from downvoting and feeling like that did something. Debate your opinion nerds, don't hide.
we do have the downvote emoji 
but it's a comment instead of an actual downvote, meaning you're making your disagreement publicly instead of anonymously and opening the floor to further discussion.
My favorite thing is when they accuse hexbear of downvote brigading. I've seen it a couple times.
LOL
I like when they accuse us of calling them specific insults, and then I can't tell what ones because it's blocked by the filter.
It implies there are outside agitators coming in to disrupt a community.
But like.
The only "rule" for joining a community is to come inside. As soon as they post, they're not outside anymore.
Folks really haven't grasped that federation means it's not "your community" anymore, you're basically a subreddit now, with all the horrors that entails.
They're really crushing this speed run.
"Were creating a decentralized space where different opinions and people can all interact with each other to whatever extent the users want"
"Hey why are there people here saying that Biden isn't the savior of the working class, clearly this is harassment"
It vibes strongly with the "outside agitator" discourse that always shows up during mass protests. "Surely our wonderful posters would never dunk on me, it must be outsiders coming in to persecute me!"
Brigading is when leftists are the most active posters and the more terminally online they are the more brigading it is.
There's certainly an attitude of "we should be able to federate with large leftist communities and then spout false right-wing talking points without being challenged >:("
Someone on lemm.ee just posted a drama thread with links to several of our comments. If we did that it would be called brigading. It's all projection.
CW: Transphobia, and Nazi-rhetoric
This is what I have used as an example of what "brigading" is and have repeadedly asked the admins for proof of anything remotely close to this on hexbear.
"Crossposting to an instance I don't like is brigading" and other things libs believe. Brigading as a word is as meaningless as libs calling us tankies. Brigading just means "someone I don't like saw my post"
The thing that annoys me is the widespread misconception among the lib instances that Hexbear users are just out there spamming PPB on every other instance, when in reality it's much more common that someone starts calling us hate speech spewing Russian bots or whatever and people start responding to that. Oh no, the consequences of my actions 
Anothe thing that happens frequently is someone posts something well-crafted in good faith and then a lib responds ”I'm not reading that Kremlin/Chinese propaganda, troll!”, so who are the ones actually not interested in arguing here?
Brigading
BearHug
r/CTH was constantly accused of brigading for the same reason Hexbear is now constantly accused of brigading. We've inherited high posting activity from CTH, and now that we're federated we have the ability to see posts from and comment to other instances. That's it. They are basically complaining that we post too much and that we disagree with them, then they equate that to brigading.
It happened all the time to users on r/CTH who happened to use other subreddits. We'd be accused of brigading just for having a history of posting in r/CTH while posting normally in other subreddits. Accusations of brigading should be entirely dismissed unless there exists evidence of organization with the intent to swarm a particular community.
Even the reddit admins themselves tried to back away from this. They eventually realised that people sharing links to reddit posts is not a bad thing, and wanted more of it.
The only reason they continued to crack down on it is that there is a historical cultural legacy that was incorrectly fostered around it on the site.
h-h-hexbear tankies s-sent me a poop pig and im fUCKIKNG SCREAMING
Honestly if you wanna have an open forum where just anyone can show up and post, I think the reality is you just gotta deal with the occasions "brigade" of people looking to debate bro you. If you don't want to deal either make your comm invite only or just have super van happy mods.
I know what you meant, but tbh we do need more moderators that are into custom van conversions
Reddit, the site that's designed to have as many eyes as possible look at as wide a variety of posts as possible to bring about engagement has rules against the wrong people engaging.
Brigading is a bullshit Redditism. For everywhere else, they're called raids and raids are a reality of Internet life. Even Twitter has a daily main character where people dogpile on someone with a particularly shitty take. If you don't want to deal with raids, you can always join the winning team.
I disagree with your post history, therefor brigade.
Libs cry bc we are too good at posting
The crybullies that whined about "brigading" were quite often the same ones that were enjoyers of "lolcow" tormenting cryptofascist subs like SRD and its more mask-off variant Dr!ma.
And now the mod of /c/196 is shitting all over Carcosa, just rubbing shit all over Carcosa and our collective faces. This is what happens when you try to pander to bad faith liberals. Why must we collectively give rimjobs to these fucking losers?
they can't stand when their party line gets dunked on, and they way we high five after really annoys them. But it's because they're trying to be the smartest person on their website, we're trying to bring each other closer to communism.
Another part that adds to this notion is that libs generally only encounter crudeness from literal children or right wingers.
They think the real world politics is some West Wing-ian paradise of polite discussions and good faith arguments. Only MAGAs resort to ad hominem, ofc, Donald Trump is bad partly because of bad policies but mainly because he's crude! Good Republicans are polite and also want what's good for the country, they just disagree on methods!
This probably stems from anti-civil rights movements saying the blacks are impolite or crude when demanding basic human decency.
Also historically untrue, on at least one occasion, Abe Lincoln bullied an opponent to tears with ad hominem attacks.
Either way, they fully buy into the scam that politeness and taking the high road will win the day except the part where liberalism has been in decay for decades due to what basically amounts to stomping your feet at conservatives every time they slide into fascism.
And they keep doing it, Sisyphus with the rock, Charlie Brown with the ball, libs with politeness. Guess what? Not disrupting evil in any meaningful way means they get to continue to make things worse and get away with it.
posting links is how the world wide web works
http is hypertext transport protocol
what is hypertext?
hypertext is text with hyperlinks to other hypertext.
Got a problem with hyperlinks? Well get off the world wide web and go be a magazine or some shit.
