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[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 162 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Hmmm...any guesses if he actually will? Cause I bet there is zero chance that he does.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 68 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can't imagine he will, nor will any of the justices appointed by Trump.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 107 points 11 months ago (1 children)

he didn't recuse himself when his wife was on the docket... so why would he recuse himself from trump?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Can we at least update the description of Supreme Court Justice to remove impartiality and instead say something to the effect of 'forces their will on people less fortunate?'

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Also, call them judges. To call them justices perverts the entire concept.

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[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well he’s a giant piece of shit human, so I’m going to guess no.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I don't see any chance the supreme court could rule that he would be immune to charges for attempting to steal an election. If they were to rule he had absolute immunity it would be giving every president forward who wants to stay in office the right to just cancel the elections.

That said, Clarence won't want his name listed as voting against protecting little hands in this, so him stepping aside gives him the ability to not vote against, and look like he did the right thing.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

Quite clearly the Supreme Court doesn't care about national stability. So who can say what will happen. They've overturned decades of jurisprudence, so speculation is fun but we really have no idea.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They already showed how it's done in Bush v Gore: just declare the case can't be used as precedent.

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm gonna put the odds at roughly 1000:1 that he does.

Actually, there are betting sites for this that would be, supposedly, more accurate than I am at creating those odds. What are the odds on the betting sites?

Edit: I'm not finding the odds.....

Edit 2: Apparently there are 5:1 odds on if Trump takes a plea bargain. I would have set those a bit higher since he is willing to settle cases, but I doubt he's willing to accept jail time of any sort.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

I can't see trump taking a plea deal while he's still running for president. He's going to try to delay as long as he can, get elected, and then use his position as president to weasel out of any charges, even if it means pardoning himself. And since he's that number 1 target, the one that they want bad enough to give lenient plea deals to others in exchange for testimony, I find it hard to believe that he'd be offered a plea that doesn't send him to prison. So why admit to being guilty when he can keep telling his followers that it's a witch hunt and generate more support?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 105 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Clarence Thomas: "Fuck you, I don't have to answer to anyone. I'm a Supreme Court Justice. I am the law."

[–] Nativeridge@aussie.zone 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I upvoted because I could actually hear the words being said as I read that 😂

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[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 87 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't even have to think about clicking on that link to know with absolute certainty that Clarence Thomas isn't under any pressure whatsoever.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 31 points 11 months ago

He's rubbing his hands together thinking about the payday coming his way.

[–] pottedmeat7910@lemmy.world 75 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How much is that recusal worth to you?

Is it, say, "new RV" worth it? Or perhaps, maybe it's "buy my mother a house" worth it?

Clarence is for sale, so let the bidding begin!

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Unfortunately a regular American so I can only offer him about $3.50.

[–] Dukeofdummies@kbin.social 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

... You know on closer inspection I can't help but notice that for an American you're about 8 stories tall and look to be from the paleolithic era...

DAMNIT NESSIE GET OFF LEMMY!

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 61 points 11 months ago (8 children)

the court is openly, blatantly corrupt. I see no reason that should stop for this case in particular. being said, I also see no reason they would rule in favor of trump. he made a mistake that not many power brokers survive: he's depending on favors he's done for the justices in the past in getting them nominated rather than on what he can do for them in the future, and he's essentially said out loud that he's gonna consolidate all power including theirs in the office of PotUS if elected again. They'll let him coup us, but I don't think they'll let him coup them and I highly doubt they'll declare the president completely above the law while the sitting president is a democrat.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I highly doubt they'll declare the president completely above the law while the sitting president is a democrat.

I'm imagining a scenario where they do that and then Biden immediately orders drive strikes on the Republican justices, because why the hell not?

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I highly doubt they’ll declare the president completely above the law while the sitting president is a democrat.

That wouldn't stop them because they know that good is dumb.

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[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 57 points 11 months ago

Spoiler alert: He won't.

[–] Ibex0@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago

I'm sure he'll get right on that.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago (3 children)

My take is this, and bear with me until the end; The Court is wildly conservative, not partisan. They're not on Trump's side. They owe him nothing.

See, once you're in for life, who gives a fuck? And that's very much the idea behind lifetime appointments. Sucks now, but I'm still down for it. Would we rather they be susceptible to political winds? (I'll take a Justice for all 12 circuit courts, at the least, please and thank you.)

Another thing that gets discounted, because they're in for life they owe nothing except to their legal legacy, their history. Most Justices, even the ones you hate, take this very, very seriously. Can't go any higher, their legacy is all they have left to define their life's work.

Thomas OTOH, is the most blatantly corrupt Justice I've seen in life, and I ain't a young 'un. This animal only cares about getting paid, no regard for his legacy, no shame. I see no reason or way he can be pressured out.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

See, once you're in for life, who gives a fuck?

Exactly, so if you're a corrupt conservative POS - per your own argument, who gives a fuck? There is no reality in which these justices are held accountable, and if they were they'll have made enough cash to still sit pretty for life.

Sure, they're not partisan, but the forces funneling money and gifts into their pockets are.

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago

The court is for sale. It's a hog trough. I don't think any of them give a fuck about their reputations.

Clarence Thomas might as well be Falstaff:

"Can honour set to a leg? no: or an arm? no: or take away the grief of a wound? no. Honour hath no skill in surgery, then? no. What is honour? a word. What is in that word honour? what is that honour? air. A trim reckoning! Who hath it? he that died o’ Wednesday. Doth he feel it? no. Doth he hear it? no. ‘Tis insensible, then. Yea, to the dead. But will it not live with the living? no. Why? detraction will not suffer it. Therefore I’ll none of it. Honour is a mere scutcheon: and so ends my catechism."

(Henry IV part 1 act V scene 1)

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[–] books@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago (37 children)

His wife was involved in Jan 6th.

If he doesn't, democracy is dead. Even if he votes against trump. Legitimacy is gone.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I mean, of course! His own wife was one of the co-conspirators!

What about the 3 people on the court who owe their cushy lifetime gig to him, though? The ones whose legal bribes still depend on his rabid following approving of them? Does anyone really think that they don't have a conflict of interest?

Btw, that Newsweek fairness meter? By conflating left-right political views with fairness, it ironically reinforces the common misconception that a centrist perspective equals fairness, incentivising any reporter of theirs who cares about the meter to adopt a centrist point of view, thus making their reporting less fair and objective.

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[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 39 points 11 months ago

When has Clarence Thomas ever done the right thing? When do people think he will ever act properly under pressure?

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago

POS won't recuse. POS will write an opinion letting Cheeto chimp off the hook. My fingers crossed he's in minority.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

He won't because he's corrupt.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

"Recuse yourself!"

"And if I don't?"

"We'll furrow our brows and be very concerned!"

[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

He should retire. Sugar baby Clarence has zero integrity and shouldn’t be on any court.

[–] lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if Coke Can Clarence will suddenly find a set of morals.

[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 28 points 11 months ago

Narrator: He didn't.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

lol fuck you.

Clarence Thomas's official statement in regards to this

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Like he remotely understands the concept of ethics.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 11 points 11 months ago

Oh, come now. He understands it perfectly, and thinks it's not worth wiping his ass with.

[–] halferect@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

I'm sure that giant shit stain will do the right thing

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Hehehehe 🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 hahahhahaha

Sweet summer child, thank you. I needed a good laugh

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

As if the Supreme Court had some sort of Code of Ethics or something.

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Watch Thomas cite this as precedent and hide behind it:

SCALIA REFUSING TO TAKE HIMSELF OFF CHENEY CASE

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Whateva! He does what he wans!

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 11 months ago

Yeah, no. I am not recusing myself. That new Code of Ethics we have? It's all a big suggestion. I plan on taking those suggestions and put them straight into the garbage can. - Clarence Thomas

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