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[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 51 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I like the styling that makes it look like

We’re “slave free” chocolate

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That was intentional, because they can't guarantee that it wasn't actually made by slaves.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Or made from slaves.

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We're "more or less slave free as long we don't ask our suppliers too many questions" chocolate!

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[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I'm sure that was deliberate

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[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What's with the quotation marks? Is the wink implied?

[–] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (12 children)

The region of Africa where the cocoa plant is harvested is so chaotic that it's impossible to say 100% that no slaves, children, or even child slaves are used in the farming process. There's a documentary that follows UN workers onto farms and they ask the kids working how old they are and every single one says 21+ when they don't even look like they're 16, and the reporter is like "it's impossible to tell" since most of these people were born out in a village and don't get a birth certificate until they are around 10+ years old, and then it's just the doctor asking them how old they are and when is their birthday.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

don't get a birth certificate until they are around 10+ years old, and then it's just the doctor asking them how old they are and when is their birthday.

So you're telling me all I need to do to get a fake identity is go to a doctor in a village and Africa and pay them to write a birth certificate for me?

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 24 points 11 months ago

Wow, lots of people in this thread trying to make sure we don't blame capitalism for all the slavery being done at the behest of capitalists making products to sell in capitalist countries. You can't blame all slavery on capitalism but you can blame a hell of a lot of it on capitalism.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Holy fuck, the "slave free" part is in quotes. It's literally in quotes. Technically they are not slaves. They get paid a penny every quarter, and we beat them if they don work, but technically they can walk out and starve to death anytime the want.

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[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Slave free but made by American Child Labor™

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 11 months ago

As opposed to American Prison Labor, which is fine, as stated in the unchangeable constitution in the 13th amendment.

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago

American desperate separated refugee child labour

Ftfy

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

See this is like if a restaurant put up a sign that said "We do NOT jack off into the claw chowder"

I didn't think you were, but now that you specifically deny it, I'm suspicious.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 10 points 11 months ago

More like 'We do NOT "jack off" into the clam chowder'

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Or when fruit juice explicitely has a vegan label on it. Uh, I would hope so.

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[–] CrowAirbrush@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

At least they aren't lying when saying "slave free" instead of regular slave free without the quotation marks.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They don’t put slaves into chocolate.

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The flavor is in the suffering

[–] Haagel@lemmings.world 16 points 11 months ago (7 children)
[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago (4 children)

And that they make up a lower proportion of all humans than at any point in recorded human history.

It's a big problem but it's one that people are putting a lot of effort into solving.

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[–] aidan@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

To clarify, a higher total number, not a higher per Capita/percentage. Also, while modern slavery is definitely terrible, it also is very different from how most people I think conceptualize slavery, like chattel slavery.

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[–] ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Screw the meme. I'm just happy to see that this political meme. Is actually being posted in a community dedicated to political memes and not just being spammed on all the five main meme communites with five different variations of it each more unfunny i dont find these funny than the last

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I post a lot, but I rarely post political stuff, because it's usually not the kind of content I find funny or enjoyable. I figure I'm probably not alone in that.

On the rare occasion that I post a political meme, I always make a point to drop it in a community for people who have sought it out, like this one. Out of my 1.6k posts on Lemmy so far, I'd be surprised if I've posted here more than 10 times.

[–] ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Honestly I've seen some of the stuff you post in lemmy shitpost and alot of it I think Is really funny in my opinion keep it up man 👍

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Yeah, because slavery started with the invention of capitalism.

What if I told you the economic system has very little to do with it. If anything, free market + customer awareness (this is the most important piece) can help eliminate it, like shown here.

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (15 children)

But the reason this is advertised is because the big names in chocolate use slavery, and while customers are aware of it, they don't really care enough to change their spending habits. It's common knowledge that our chocolate uses slaves, our phones and shoes use child labor, etc, but we don't have the financial stability to alter our purchasing habits to avoid them, and honestly, most people don't really care about harm coming to someone they don't know in another county, so long as they're still able to buy the products they want.

And it's not just harm to others we can't/don't avoid - from tech, to food, to clothing, companies are charging more money for worse products, but we continue giving them record profits. In the end, the vast majority of consumers allow companies to do whatever they want; giving the companies less regulation and/or putting out even more documentaries to teach people about the atrocities they commit isn't going to change those people's behavior.

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It unfortunately isn't common knowledge. You'd be surprised at the sheer amount of people who aren't aware of many things outside of their own neighborhood, much less in other countries.

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

I'm already too surprised by the amount of people who say things like "I ordered my phone last week, and it still isn't here. There's a kid in China who isn't being whipped enough, haha!" for me to think that more people knowing would lead to more people caring.

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[–] blahsay@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's good they're trying vaguely at least 🤷.

I don't think this is capitalism exactly. The Chinese and Russians certainly do their own forms of slavery (fishing boats, gulags etc).

There's more slaves in the world now than at any prior time. Lack of education (kids not in school too), poverty and wild birth rates are probably the biggest factors here, particularly in Africa.

The west can exert a lot of pressure here for good:

  • Subsidized education requirements for export countries (or import levies)
  • Break up chocolate monopolies
  • Living minimum wages
  • Independent monitoring
  • Practical health programs
[–] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The US engages in domestic slavery too.

The 13th amendment has a very convenient loophole:

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

It is one of the many reasons, perhaps the largest reason why African Americans are incarcerated at 6 times the rate of White Americans, on a national average.

Yet people still don't believe systemic racism exists.

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[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not unique to capitalism, unfortunately. Simply a result of people being more aware of where our supply chains originate from - and what horrific conditions people toil under there.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 15 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Greatly exacerbated by capitalism, to the point that it's fair to say it's caused by capitalism

Also, capitalism makes us less cognizant of our supply chain, not more

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