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[–] ewe@lemmy.world 196 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

Every time I see these I see these climate change related issues (which is now multiple times a day), I get the same sinking feeling in my stomach like I'm behind on work and don't have enough time to do it and I'll soon be in trouble for letting things get too far behind. That feeling keeps me up, causes me stress, and is generally not a comfortable way to live. This just fucking sucks.

[–] gosling@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago (28 children)

Don't be too harsh on yourself, big corporations are the main cause of climate change. Unless we all collectively decide to give these companies a wake up call, I'm afraid there's very little you can do alone

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I hate to say it, but I keep avoiding articles about climate change for this reason. I can't do it every time, obviously, but it just gives me such stress. We're all so powerless while corporations destroy our planet.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Have you tried separating your recycling out? It'll help offset the cruise ships that each put out around 250,000 cars worth of straight up pollution a year, without factoring in other impacts.

[–] vaultdweler13@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And thats just the cruise ships imagine how much cargo ships output, admitedly cargo ships actually serve a purpose. Cruise ships are idols to our decadence and hubris.

I dream of bloody knives and car bombs.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I make sure to not litter.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 14 points 1 year ago

Well thank fuck for that... I was worried for a moment there.

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[–] Monkeyhog@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Really? The feeling I get when I read articles like this is a resigned feeling of "No shit, we've only been hearing warnings of this for the past 30 years. People are fucking stupid"

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[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (10 children)

And the worst part is, average citizens like yourself aren't a massive burden on the environment. It's people like Elon Musk flying personal jets across the world for dinner, who are actively contributing to the death of the planet.

[–] golamas1999@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The jets are bad but what is worse are the handle full of billionaires and csuite execs who have the money and power to decide company policies and bribe politicians and governments: lobbying, independent expenditures, gala dinners, super pacs, incentives, revolving doors, private fundraising, paid speeches; to look the other way so they can pollute however much they want.

Nothing is Ethical under Capitalism.

Social Democracy is better but still exports the suffering to the global south.

Workers of the world must unite to over come the absolute insanity of the capital class.

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[–] Arsenal4ever@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Oil and gas companies are awesome at branding. We need to be better. We should name the heatwaves after oil companies.

We should also name the hurricane season. So the Exxon Mobile Heatwave, and the British Petroleum Hurricane Season. The Suncor Forest Fires.

etc.

[–] livedeified@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

IIRC, a weatherman started doing this

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[–] Djeikup@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

38,4°C for non americans.

[–] AspieEgg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 1 year ago

Nah, I prefer the title without units. It allows me to imagine the oceans boiling, which would just cement Florida as being literal hell.

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[–] Surp@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Are we all gonna die soon? Serious question

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We? No. We'll just be uncomfortable. Our kids? They're going to slowly cook to death as they're running out of food/water/oxygen. Or, y'know, get blown up in one of the wars fighting over scraps of food/water/oxygen.

But look on the bright side: we're on track to beat last fiscal year's profit margin! If we do that, we'll get a free company branded pencil and one ticket to use some leave-without-pay at you manager's discretion -- and the regional manager gets another vacation home!!

[–] schroedingershat@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mass famines and heat that kills without AC coming summer of 2024 or 2025. Won't kill the global north too much yet, but it will be one of the biggest deadly events in history for the rest of the world.p

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Military journalist Gwyn Dyer reported on this almost 2 decades ago.

The global militaries have been planning for this for years. You see those ships with refugees from northern Africa? That volume is going to ramp up plus Mediterranean countries are going to exodus north to the Nordic states and immigration is going to lock the fuck down. People are going to die by the millions. Maybe not in 2 years but this is our future.

On the plus side, and I am fucking saying this sarcastically, at least it's the "right people" dying which is to say those not white and those not rich.

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People are already dying to the effects. We know climate change can cause more and higher intensity hurricanes, more droughts, fires, famines, wilder weather swings, floods, and wars and refugee crises, etc. We know these things are increasing and we know people are already dying to them now.

So while you can't pin any individual disaster to climate change, we already know it's causing deaths.

As for if we're all going to die? Probably not all of us, so if you're lucky and don't mind you or your kids living in a Mad Max world, you can relax a little.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago

At least the ocean will be nice and warm when it floods their houses

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I assume that's 100° Freedom rather than 100° Civilised?

[–] doitlive@reddthat.com 34 points 1 year ago

Nope, ocean is boiling.

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[–] A_A@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Beware of the upcoming hurricane season.

[–] vinylshrapnel@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Overtemp gulf is going to create some monster storms.

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[–] fearout@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Holy crap. So coral bleaching in that area is basically guaranteed at this point. And some plankton and algae can’t really survive if those temperatures persist.

Also, as temperature rises, water holds less and less dissolved oxygen. At the same time metabolic rates of fish increase, which makes them require even more oxygen. The scary thing about that is at some point they lose the ability to get enough oxygen to sustain life, and then bam — the whole species dies in a day.

Remember those rivers of millions of dead fish? Yeah, it’s like that.

[–] Uli@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

All of these things are bad, but the effect on phytoplankton is most frightening of all. Diatoms provide 50-85% of our global oxygen supply. Not only are rising temperatures a problem for them, but ocean acidification also eats away at their silica-based shells. But it does it slowly so by the time they die, they are in deep water where no other diatoms are around to reuse the silica.

Luckily, there are other ways of recycling diatom remains. The most notable example is the dried lake bed that used to be part of Lake Chad when that lake was far bigger and held many living diatoms. Due to natural changes in climate, the water dried up and that area is now part of the Sahara Desert. About 100 days a year, winds kick the ancient diatom dust high into the atmosphere where it is carried across the Atlantic Ocean and then it settles across South America.

This is a big reason the Amazon Rainforest is so lush. Diatomaceous fertilizer carried all the way from Africa. And since more plants means more photosynthesis, it causes a lot of water that would have otherwise been locked away in the ground to evaporate through transpiration. All of this excess water is blown westward towards the Andes mountain range. In narrower parts of the Andes, the dense Amazonian clouds overcome the rain shadow effect to precipitate across the west side of the Andes.

This rainwater causes erosion of quartz, which is ground into fine silica dust. As silt, this dust is washed into the Pacific Ocean, where diatoms absorb the silica and use it to reproduce. In a beautiful global balancing act, as diatom-heavy lakes in Africa dry up, the remains of those diatoms cause a chain reaction that ends up causing a huge increase of diatoms on the opposite side of the globe.

Great, right? It would be if we weren't replacing so much of the Amazon Rainforest with monoculture farms which don't have nearly the same evapotranspiration effect as the flora of the natural ecosystem. So, not only are we baking the diatoms, not only are we dissolving them with acid, we're also removing one of their most critical reproductive resources.

It's like we discovered how resilient the planet is and how hard it is to kill, and humans took that as a challenge.

Enjoy the oxygen while it's plentiful.

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[–] such_fifty_bucks@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago

Or the 2000 dead penguins washing up on the coast of Uruguay just a few days ago. Apparently starved to death, though the cause is still being investigated.

But yeah the phytoplankton and algae boiling to death is triggering a catastrophic change in the ocean that is going to domino in horrible ways and I feel like I don't often see a lot of people mentioning it. It's very scary how the collapse of aquatic ecosystems is playing out.

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[–] Johem@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You know what would really help? Not showing a nice happy vacation beach image with that headline. How about some dead fish, people sweating while doing manual laboue or bleached corals? For fucks sake.

(I know NBC doesn't read Lemmy, just frustrated)

[–] TheMusicalFruit@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Just a reminder that warm waters in the Gulf of Mexico and Southern Atlantic = hurricane fuel. We are lucky El Niño is causing some wind shear in the upper atmosphere to break up the storms… so far. I recommend looking it up if you’re interested. Hurricane season has the potential to be devastating this year if the El Niño cycle weakens.

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[–] ProximaC@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We already passed the tipping point when the permafrost started melting and exploding. It's going to be an awful ride.

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[–] transmatrix@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Fuck this is scary. Wish some extreme actions were being taken for this extreme situation.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago
[–] ItsDedo@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Americans reading this: * kalm *

Europeans reading this: * panik *

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Warmer waters means stronger storms.

Florida is going to go through some things.

[–] Blastoid5000@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why insurance companies are dropping out of the State, and yet I'd wager a good chunk of the population deny climate change exist.

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[–] salient_one@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 18 points 1 year ago (10 children)

This is Fahrenheit, right? So ~38.3º Celsius.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (8 children)

If it was Celsius the sea would be boiling.

[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Nothing to see here, just making a stew in the ocean.

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[–] o0joshua0o@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I believe it. I'm not even in Florida (thank God), but my pool temp is 95F today. It's literally too hot to swim.

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[–] FreeloadingSponger@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (19 children)

American temperatures really never do stop sounding ridiculous.

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