Challenged by the BBC about the attack of 7 October, Mr Marzouk claimed that Mohamed el-Deif, the leader of Hamas’s Qassam Brigades military wing, had ordered his men to spare civilians.
yeah I heavily doubt that last part. What Isreal is doing to civilians is cruel, unacceptable and should end immediately but let's not forget that the Hamas is exclusively targeting Israeli civilians and also is willingly accepting palestenian civilians as casualties...
Hamas is not "exclusively" targeting Israeli civilians. Or do you think they are avoiding military targets? Israel also targets Palestinian civilians, and willingly accepts Israeli civilians as casualties. Literally everything you said applies ten-fold to Israel.
well they are. Of course they also attack military personnel but their attacks on civilians are also directly targeted at them, there are not casualties like the civilians in the israelian attacks, which of course does not justifies these!
Maybe exclusively isn't the right word then
Israel absolutely targets civilians, and if you don't believe that they do, you are willfully blind. There are interviews with soldiers joking about shooting out the knees of protestors. International findings that Israel has deliberately targeted/killed journalists. Hell, they bombed refugees on a road they told them to take! Even if you absolutely refuse to acknowledge any of this, the idea that bombing a hospital or school, when you know that the ratio of civilians to combatants there is 100:1, is somehow morally stronger than if there were no combatants at all, is a ridiculous position to take.
So when a soldier takes the initiative to do something horrible it’s all of israel that it’s at fault. But we need to be very careful about distinguishing between hamas terrorists and palestinians. Don’t you think that seems inconsistent?
The Israeli soldier is enacting violence on behalf of the Israeli state. Hamas is doing the same on behalf of the Palestinian state. Is there a pattern of such behavior from Israeli soldiers? Are there appropriate consequences applied in such cases? The answers are yes, and no, respectively. This isn't just "rogue soldiers", it is a matter of policy.
If Hamas is a "terrorist" organization, then so is the Israeli government. Neither cares to distinguish between combatants and noncombatants. On balance, my sympathy lies with the Palestinian people, relegated to shrinking ghettoes, while a colonial force imports settlers from all over the globe to illegally occupy their homes and farms.
Hamas is also a "state" in that they are a democratically elected political organization that has a monopoly on violence in Gaza. That's the definition of a "state."
However they also engage in terrorism. Kind of a two-fer.
Israel, otoh does not technically engage in terrorism. Instead, their violence against civilians only acts to further the goals and status quo of Hamas. Terrorism by definition is a political act of violence to effect change.
I fail to see how Hamas is a terrorist organization, and the Israeli government isn't. The difference to me seems purely down to PR.
Did you hear the part where he said Hamas has a monopoly on violence in Gaza lmfao
Jesus Christ I actually glossed over that part somehow.
Hamas goal is to kill all jews. Israels goal is to kill all Hamas fighters. That doesn't add up with your claim.
It is certainly convenient to frame this conflict purely in terms of racial hatred. In that case you may want to take a look at all the racist and exterminationist rhetoric that comes from Israeli politicians and settlers. Israel's ultimate goal is annexation of all Palestinian territories.
That is how Hamas frames it. I wouldn't consider it convenient from Israel's pov.
It's very convenient for Israel to pretend that Hamas has no reason other than racism to hate Israel.
They planned and trained storming houses for months, then sent fighters armed with grenades, knives and assault rifles to undefended purely civilian villages and a music festival.
"But don't hurt anyone, k?"
Deny deny deny until you believe.
This is what a political stooge looks like, he clearly knows he is lying. But js trying to get the message out.
At least in Lemmy it is working, 90% of the leftists in this site would line up to give a BJ to the Hamas members
Disgusting
This is the best summary I could come up with:
A senior Hamas leader has refused to acknowledge that his group killed civilians in Israel, claiming only conscripts were targeted.
His claims are in stark contrast to the wealth of video evidence of Hamas men shooting unarmed adults and children.
Mr Marzouk, the group's deputy political leader, who is subject to an asset freeze in the UK under counter-terrorism regulations, was interviewed on Saturday in the Gulf.
Mr Marzouk recently travelled to Moscow to discuss eight Russian-Israeli dual citizens snatched on 7 October by Hamas, a proscribed terror organisation in many countries including the UK and US.
Challenged by the BBC about the attack of 7 October, Mr Marzouk claimed that Mohamed el-Deif, the leader of Hamas's Qassam Brigades military wing, had ordered his men to spare civilians.
Mr Marzouk is also listed as a specially designated global terrorist by the US Treasury Department, and is indicted on several charges of co-ordinating and financing Hamas activities.
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This is a leader of one group of rebels. Multiple israeli settlers have confirmed that at least one group of Hamas fighters did exactly what this man is suggesting right after the 7 October aftack
https://youtu.be/rD7NI0tGbp8?si=LgHAREbj4dnXMpc4
Now should be made clear that not all the Hamas fighters are on one line about this, some just want revenge for the opression israel put them through. However since this was a huge undercover operation there is most likely a lot of secrecy going on. Big group discussions about the goal of the operation or even the operation itself were likely not discussed till the last moment and just passed by word of mouth.
"and that's why I sent my terrorists with 4k cameras to document all their actions" LMAO
Fuck Hamas and all the leftists terrorist apologizers
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