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[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 85 points 11 months ago
[-] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 52 points 11 months ago

Oh no, I can't believe the guy obsessed with war is a fascist

[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 77 points 11 months ago

This is a pretty common take I see among liberal democrats.

Not only is it horrifically racist, it's also a childish idea of democracy.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 45 points 11 months ago

Just unapologetic white supremacism. "The ![us-foreign-policy](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/7aaf9444-94ef-4e1e-ba7e-4c53615c92e6.png "emoji us-foreign-policy") are out-breeding us!"

[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 71 points 11 months ago

Could you imagine how awful it would be to lose control of your own country? Maybe herded into certain regions that are just a small fraction of your original land where access is highly controlled and militarized?

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 66 points 11 months ago
[-] Judge_Jury@hexbear.net 63 points 11 months ago

What the fuck is this Carlin? Give us George back

Dan used to be decent and interesting for a liberal. Trump took office and he took a long hiatus and came back completely brain broken.

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

I'm very glad I stopped listening to his shit when it was just Rome and Mongols.

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[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 56 points 11 months ago

Isn't this literally the justification that was given for the three fifths compromise? Isn't this literally just KKKolonizer brain talking? Why does anyone take this clown seriously?

[-] jack@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago

Isn't this literally the justification that was given for the three fifths compromise?

No. That was about slave states trying to get congressional representation for their enslaved populations. They wanted all slaves to count towards their population for the sake of proportioning congressional seats. Non-slave states (or states with relatively few slaves) wanted the slaves not to count because they had no democratic rights, and therefore would just inflate representation for the slaveholding class. 3/5ths compromise is how it got settled; 3/5ths off a state's enslaved population would be counted for representation in the House.

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[-] ChairmanSpongebob@hexbear.net 47 points 11 months ago

WE MUST PRESERVE THE ETHNOSTATE

[-] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 46 points 11 months ago

Either Palestinians get full Israeli voting rights or Israel relinquishes its claim to govern Gaza and the west bank. They can't have it both ways.

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 26 points 11 months ago

I think this is the best way to explain it to people who don’t really know much about the situation (which is like 99% of white Westerners who aren’t already pro-Palestine). It boils it down into a digestible issue - it’s either autonomy or enfranchisement, Israel is offering neither. Thus it is by definition apartheid. If someone tries to argue they do have autonomy… well this is pretty easy to prove wrong and tbh after all this I don’t think anyone is going to go back to pretending Gaza and West Bank have real autonomy. Only other option is to be like Dan here and say “then the Jewish people won’t have disproportionate control over ‘their’ country”… then at least you’re backing them into a two state solution which, still not great but it should at least break loose most of the propaganda they’ve been fed.

[-] Orannis62@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

The thing is, zionists like to pretend that Gaza is totally independent already. Because nothing says independence like being blockaded from all sides and having your infrastructure bombed regularly so you have to depend on the people who bomb you to send in food and power.

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[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago
[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 39 points 11 months ago

god i just don't give an absolute shit about what israelis are going through rn ngl. i feel bad for like, jewish people who aren't settlers that are worried about their families, but wanting anyone to empathize with people who live next to an open-air mass concentration camp is ludicrous.

[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

like, if you live in america, next to a federal prison, are you like, surprised if someone breaks out? no, that'd be insane, you have to accept the nature of the carceral state in some way if you are constantly materially confronted with it.

edit: specifically, everyone near such an unstable situation as caged human beings knows that it's analogous to standing by a bomb. it will eventually go off. the question is just when, and how you've prepared yourself for it, and what happens next.

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 37 points 11 months ago

quickly lose control of their own country

Well it's not like they've been doing a great job running things

[-] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"conquest via democracy" ![hitler-detector](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/a7e53fbd-6df2-4a41-b261-434cb7c73535.png "emoji hitler-detector")

[-] GodDamnAmercia@hexbear.net 36 points 11 months ago

Dan "Hard R word History"

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 36 points 11 months ago

And in this corner, saying some absolutely heinous bullshit, it's Dan "The White Man" Carlin!

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 35 points 11 months ago

Me when I'm in "The most fascist shit ever said" contest and my opponent is a white man ![squidward-nervous](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/febc20c4-5cd4-4fcc-a934-85359710d4b2.png "emoji squidward-nervous")

[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago

dan carlin had stefan molyneux on as a guest

[-] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Now there's a name I haven't seen in years. I thought he was relegated to the dustbin of fascists no longer useful to the right, alongside Milo and Richard Spencer.

That’s sickening. Dude was always a lib but he wasn’t in the habit of platforming people who were open white supremacists. Molyneux always had the posture of a cryptofascist while literally constantly saying openly fascist things.

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[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago

Did he just do "replacement theory"? ![hitler-detector](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/a7e53fbd-6df2-4a41-b261-434cb7c73535.png "emoji hitler-detector")

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Mask all the way the fuck off.

Someone who hasn't been turbo-banned should post Camp of the Saints at him until he cries or has an epic ![gamer](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/70493f54-dccd-4f9d-8409-2f36aaa4a0dd.png "emoji gamer") moment

lol imagine coming out in public and saying "actually a pluralistic multicultural democracy is bad. We must secure a future for honky children etc etc"

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago

I can't believe I used to think this guy was cool.

[-] Beaver@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago

"Conquest via democracy" is an interesting, uh, perspective

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[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 26 points 11 months ago
[-] Maoo@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago

Great Replacement Theory for Zionists

[-] Judge_Jury@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago

Dan "the fascists have valid reasons" Carlin

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago

I’ve always thought this guy was a little too into nazis

[-] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

He's just Gen Z "Freakanomics" guy at this point

[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago

I can't even understand what he's saying. His sentence structure is shit and so are his opinions.

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

He's saying that the existence of settle colonialism is entirely based on the oppression and supression of the majority, and thus of course they don't want a one state solution, but that that's hecka understandable really.

We really need to resurrect Sherman and have him sent to Israel under the political command of John Brown.

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[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

He’s arguing against a one-state solution because “democracy is two wolves and one sheep deciding what’s for dinner” type bs argument. He’s saying if Israelis let Arabs vote it will no longer be a Jewish ethnostate… which if you’re feeling charitable, you could say he’s not saying that’s good that’s just him articulating what he thinks Jewish folks in Israel think. That’s kind of his “thing”, he always emphasizes trying to see things from someone else’s POV. Which works in some instances but not when people are advocating for genocide and ethnic cleansing.

[-] GriffithDidNothingWrong@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago

So if the small group of elites controlling their government allowed the majority of the population to vote than they might vote for laws benefitting the majority of the people living in the country? Fuck, I'd hate to see that

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago

![hitler-detector](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/a7e53fbd-6df2-4a41-b261-434cb7c73535.png "emoji hitler-detector") The liberal has been scratched and is quickly entering "the 14 words actually make sense if you think about it" mode!

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[-] sourquincelog@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

Idk, he's just saying it's not surprising that bad country doesn't do democracy cuz it knows it has an underclass. It parallels the actions of the Jim Crow South. Doesn't seem like an endorsement based on his last sentence, acknowledging that morality is often in conflict with the actions of states

[-] regul@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago

You can read it charitably until the last sentence:

Ok,if they go that route then they quickly lose control of their own country via birthrates and the ballot box.

This is true. If you (correctly) see Israel as an ethnostate this is obvious.

Can you see why they might not be too enthusiastic about what to them looks like conquest via democracy?

I can understand that people who support ethnostates are racist, yes.

You may see this as morally right,but their reticence is human.

And here's where he loses me. There's nothing "human" or "natural" about racism.

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[-] Judge_Jury@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago

He's acting like it's a legitimate country rather than an occupation force

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

getting real tired of "these other peoples through their savage nature shall outbreed their more civilised counterparts and therefore must be reigned in"

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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That is literally the line people who supported apartheid South Africa were thinking but knew not to say out loud if they didn't want to be seen as monsters.

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