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Maybe I could see that for Windows server. As more of that market moves to azure, the os matters less.

I've heard rumors that the dom0 equivalent in their azure virtualization platform is now Linux based. They still use an in house hypervisor, but may have moved to Linux as the management stack.

It's a long shot, but if Microsoft were moving anything at all, it would be the server product given it actually struggles in market share.

On the desktop, they just don't have much reason. They barely evolve the NT kernel so it doesn't cost them a huge amount. The Linux approach to drivers would completely mess up their driver ecosystem. With the world of modern standby, windows pretty much gave up on long term suspend and instead hibernates, Linux refuses to even try to hibernate with secure boot. The features a Linux kernel brings to the table just do not matter to the windows desktop market. It would be a giant migration expense for no benefit compared to their current strategy of just hosting a Linux kernel as a virtualization guest.

I mean I would love to use a Linux oriented desktop management instead of Windows shell, but it's abundantly clear that would be non negotiable for Microsoft, so I'd end up still stuck with my least favorite part of the windows experience even if the kernel were Linux

There will not be a desktop anymore before linux becomes the only mainstream OS.

Witness: android.

Lpt: guess as many crazy things about the future as possible and some will turn out true, then you can be a prophet

Some hardcore delulu

buddy there's a better chance of trump transitioning than this

I have marked your words “incorrect”

Dumbest take of 2025, I'm calling it early.

Remember, kids: All guesses, zero coherence = bs

I'm have whatever he's having

This won't happen, there is a lot of industrial software that digs it's fingers deep into windows subsystems that wine does not support. Even popular commercial, like adobe, cannot run on wine correctly

At this point I'm not even sure Microsoft knows how some of those sub systems work, they just migrating ancient code bases and patching it enough to make it work again on the new compilers.

So windows kernel will exist untill everyone else leaves.

Move your workflow away from windows, if you can, as Microsoft doesn't care enough about their userbase.

Yeah that's not going to happen.

However, I think Windows will become more and more tied to the Microsoft cloud offerings.

Mark mine: Microsoft and Windows will be promoted by government and people will lap it up. Linux will be vilified and this will be accepted by the public, at least in the USA.

So animals evolve towards being crabs, operating systems evolve towards being linux distros?

There's a Jon Lajoie song called "Radio Friendly Song". There's a moment in that cong where he's describing the (as of 15 years ago) modern trend of radio friendly songs being the same garbage every song. And the feeling one has thinking that every time a new song is released you would think the general public would eventually reject the same 4 cord note progression in every song. Then, he belts out a line that I wish were isolated, and could becomd a meme onto itself. He's singing about how you would think the public wojld eventually reject these songs, and follows that up with "BUT YOU WERE WROOOONG!!!!"

And I hear that line everytime someone says something blatently wrong, I hear just that line of the song. I wish it were on youtube, isolated so a 3 second soundbyte so I could just post it when I see something like that.

Because readkng you say that Microsoft in 2025 will turn Windows into a Linux distro.......

"But you were wrooooong!!!"

That’s some strong copium

I think it will become an entirely cloud based OS with a thin client booting the machine straight into their Edge browser. Pay as you go operating system that never leaves their Azure walled garden. Google's Chromebooks were just ahead of their time. As Spock said: "it's Linux Jim, but not as we know it".

Shut up about the "year of the linux desktop".

It has been the so called year of the linux desktop ever since linux was a thing.

If Windows becomes a Linux distro that might save their share in normal desktop usage.

So I don't see it happening.

They don't care about their users.

I don't think they would bother doing that much work at the core of the operating system. They are too busy playing with the UI and cloud integrations they don't care about the algorithms the kernel runs on and they have a better driver situation currently anyway. I don't see the route to this.

I'm sorry to say.

Well, yeah: Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

Doubt.

This is bold but actually in a way I think it has a possibility of happening cause Microsoft will figure they can make money from it

Did anyone else read this in a squeaky voice?

It can happen if Microsoft decides not to spend money on making a new kernel because they will need one eventually. But a compatibility layer? Why would they not make it exclusive to Windows?