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[–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago (1 children)

OP: posts example of Republicans taking credit for things they opposed

ITT: "Roads are bad!"

Kinda missing the point, here.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Remember: anything Democrats do is bad. That is literally ALL that these fucking shills care about. Spin spin spin. They look at any topic and think, "how can we spin this to attack Democrats?"

They get the point. They're deflecting.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Nothing helps traffic like more roads. It's not like mass transit could fix it.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Still need infrastructure for mass transit.

Busses still need roads and rails need maintenance.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Buses dont need multi-lane highways and massive interchanges, neither do trains...

[–] Million@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not for the highways, but trains need train stations and large rail yards and big storage and maintenance areas, and whole new set of machinery and infrastructure to maintain.

Operators for trains and tracks and other systems.

Its not just "lay some track and buy a train", and you are not saying that either.

Right decision imo to aim for that in the long run tho!

[–] warm@kbin.earth 10 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I mean that's where the money should be spent, not on highway changes.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trains still need some pretty massive interchanges, just look at any megabase in Factorio. There are literally books of blueprints to deal with any interchange you could possibly need for your trains.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Rail takes up some space, but only at terminating stations. The tracks themselves for 99% of the journey are much more space efficient than roads. We can't compare factorio to real life aha, we are transporting people instead of cargo and over much larger distances.

Besides, USA has a lot of space, that wasn't really the issue, it was the spending of money on the wrong infrastructure.

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[–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

ONE MORE LANE

[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Infrastructure doesn't necessarily mean roads. Although I haven't heard of anyone using this money to make public transportation better I have heard stories of cities using this money to improve pedestrian and bike infrastructure.

You're right but that's not really the point of this post

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Politicians really need to start being held accountable for blatant lies... they don't even try anymore, which means it will only get worse. Lying like this should be punishable.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The voters are supposed to hold them accountable. It's just rotten from the bottom up.

[–] fern@lemmy.autism.place 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, laws should be in place that make this illegal. I want every speech a candidate gives to be under oath and punishable by being banned from holding office.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I have been told multiple times on Lemmy, including this morning, that Harris and Trump would be exactly the same when it came to queer rights and women's rights but at least Republicans are honest about it.

It's mind-boggling.

[–] beanlink@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah the amount of gas lighting and mental gymnastics is astounding. I stopped wasting energy listening to these clowns. Just call them for what they are and disengage and place a mirror in front of them so they can gaslight themselves.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I mostly just hear screeching about genocide (but only when criticizing democrats, never about republicans). I've noticed that I've started racking up bans on various communities for calling out such bad-faith arguments.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Meanwhile, I'm talking to someone right now elsewhere who is coming very close to saying that the way to stop the genocide of Palestinians is a genocide of Israelis. I'm curious to see if they are actually going to go that far.

People have some severely fucked up morals regarding the genocide in Gaza.

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[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I have a cousin, whos kinda weird, but he comments like that hoping to be picked up as a up incoming republican by the true government. Fuck years who his mom and i were drinking in the middle of trumps term, and she says.... that he will make a great general when the next civil war comes....

These crazy posters probably have a similar mind set. Its honestly revolting.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Those nationwide infrastructure bills should distribute funds to the districts and states according to who voted for or against the bill. The bill passed, but you voted against it? Nothing for your district that you would have received even if it's in the bill.

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Look at TANF.

Give any control to states of federal funding and it's the most vulnerable who suffer.

And that creates a whole load of angry people suffering who tend to fall for rhetoric blaming others for their problems.

Republicans gain votes by making people angry, poor, and powerless.

If the Democrats want to flip a swing state the best way to do it is making people better off.

The fact Republicans then try to get credit is irrelevant. If Republicans need to say how much "they" improved things it's them saying how positive things are and evidence the damaging messages the party usually spews are failing. This representative is panicking because of the infrastructure bills effect.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

I like the concept of what you are trying to do, but the suggested implementation is terrible.

Republicans put a poison pill to make men wearing dresses a felony in a funding bill when they have the majority in the House?

Vote against it and no funds for you!

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago

The best way to fix this is to have a sign as you enter the highway system on how your representative voted.

I begged for COVID checks to have the same.

Something simple like:

This highway goes through congressional districts 6, 9, and 12. Representatives Asshole, Dingus, and Cunt (respectively) voted against it.

[–] Backlog3231@reddthat.com 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I see this in a lot in my red town. There are a lot of infrastructure projects and they all say "project x funded by the republicans for initiative or whatever" and then you go to the website and in the fine print it says that initiative was itself funded with IRA money.

I really wasn't sure about the IRA at the time; I had big sticker shock at $5 trillion dollars. But seeing my middle-of-nowhere-in-particular town get big big projects funded with it has convinced me that this is landmark legislation that history will recognize as significant.

Now extend the northeast corridor to the rest of the country please! I want more passenger rail! I demand better train service!

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[–] cuban_Pete@lemy.lol 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My take is, both parties bad, one far worse.

Hot take right here

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Republicans have always voted against anything thats good for the country or citizenry, then when it gets passed regardless, they take all the credit for it.

And thanks to conservative voters being nicely quaranetined into the conservative news cycle, They hear nothing but that their dear Republican Representatives scored another big win for them against the big bad evil mean demorats.

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