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[–] Moss@hexbear.net 106 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Honestly I thought this would be a slam dunk for Trump after the assassination photo, then he completely failed to capitalize on that, then I thought it would be a slam dunk for Harris, then she did absolutely nothing to make her likeable and got an endorsement from Cheney. How are both presidential candidates so bad at running for president

[–] SupFBI@hexbear.net 77 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Neither have anything to offer and they know it.

[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 43 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The mask is peeling off, Musk is already blatantly bragging about being the "shadow president" behind Trump like its something to be proud of.

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[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago

all the years of hysteria and bullshit from both parties and american voters are about to come out probably in record numbers to deliver the same result as a random number generator app

maybe Americans are smarter than I thought lol

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 52 points 3 weeks ago

From what I understand, Trump actually got chilled by the attempt, right? Like he actually had to stop and think about the world and his place in it for the first time in his life. I don't know, I'm sorry to anthropomorphize a republican. I haven't really been following. But he's supposedly talented at reading the room, right?

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 95 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I may not be Dale Earnhardt
But I'm about to crash into the wall because I couldn't turn left

hillary-disgust

[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 47 points 3 weeks ago

I may not be Johnny Knoxville... But I ate shit, on live TV

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 83 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

All Harris had to do was to even pretend to be progressive, but she had to jump on the ghoul train in order to impress 7 columnists. Why do they think that Negraponte and Cheney are good endorsements?

The dems were on a slight roll when they chose to do what the 'left' told them by replacing Biden and choosing Waltz for VP, but then decided to double down to pander to the right.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Capturing the donor class is far more important than getting votes. That’s why Citizens United exists - to make sure that politicians will always prioritize the donor class.

This is the one chance the Democrats have to become the new Republican party thanks to Trump burning bridges with all its traditional bourgeois base. It would be stupid not for them to take the opportunity.

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They can capture the donor class behind closed doors. This move reeks of DC staffer conventional wisdom

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why closed doors when the voters don’t even matter to them? It’s a rebranding phase - the Democrats have to make it explicit to their new donors. You know, make them feel welcomed.

There is also no need for a “secret conspiracy” here because when politicians make their public statements, they are just talking to the donor class. This has always been the case. No need to hide behind anything when the voters don’t matter to you.

I don’t understand why people still keep trying to twist reality into fitting what they want to see, when everyone here knows deep down, the Democrats and the Republicans have always blatantly make statements without taking the voters into account. If this hadn’t been the case, public pressure and protests would have worked. But we all know they haven’t.

You are not that important. Only the top 1% matters.

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[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 35 points 3 weeks ago

Bribers. They bring war profiteering bribers.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago

It really is one of the most incredible unforced errors of all time.

[–] HamManBad@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago

Her sister is married to an Uber executive. Her inner circle is a buch of people deeply involved with McKinsey, major banks, the Ford Foundation, etc. She is personally deeply embedded in the donor class, it's not even about appeasing them, it's the fact that she IS them

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s the donors, it’s always the donor money that does this to them.

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[–] WorkingClassCorpse@hexbear.net 76 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Anyone notice their polling numbers started tanking as soon as it came out that planet-hillary was consulting their campaign?

Or maybe it was the Cheney announcement? Or Walz's comments on Iran and Israel?

Boy I'm so excited for another 2016, I can already hear the quiet panicking and finger pointing on election night.

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 78 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

They switched from calling Republicans "weird" to being like "Okay, but we love Republicans, we're adopting a bunch of their policies, and we'll have Republicans in our administration" and the numbers dropped. Wow who could have seen this coming!?

And yes, all of this sounds like HRC's strategists.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

When you put it that way i-cant

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[–] Des@hexbear.net 46 points 3 weeks ago

oh those fingers are already pointed at us and have been since the beginning.

you know those wacky oversized foam fingers? they just went ahead and taped them to us a decade ago and relieved themselves of the need to ever self-crit

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[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 63 points 3 weeks ago

You're telling me that Dick Cheney's endorsement didn't catapult her to an easy win? What is this world coming to smh

[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 58 points 3 weeks ago

Dang it's almost like she was bottom-tier in the 2020 primaries for a fucking reason.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 54 points 3 weeks ago

I wonder why. It must be Russian propaganda there is literally no other possible explanation! blob-no-thoughts

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 52 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Weird that their strategy of courting Republicans isn't working, given there's already a Republican candidate that appeals more broadly to Republicans (on account of saying out loud, "I'm a Republican").

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Are democrats that clueless about politics? Americans love love LOVE the GOP. They’re more loyal to it than their wives.

If they actually cared about progressivism, it would be much easier to recruit a bunch of white men allies, register as republicans, hide your power level and claim you’re fash and when you get elected do all the progressive stuff behind everyone’s backs.

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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 50 points 3 weeks ago

Demo are gonna lose this election, take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror and say "We've gotta get more genocidal."

[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 49 points 3 weeks ago

Turns out the "Im basically a republican in all but name" strategy didnt work out work so well when please-save-me will always prefers the big wet boi.

[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 49 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

They probably think that Kamala wasn’t old and right wing enough. Next time they will select a 90 year old southern democrat who has dementia and that’s why he didn’t switch parties.

[–] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 24 points 3 weeks ago

We have zombie Strom Thurmond at home. biden-fall

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[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 49 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I remember when a poll showed "Generic unnamed Democrat" polling 8% better than Biden in some places. It was clear as day that voters wanted literally anything but Biden. When Biden dropped out people thought they'd be getting their wish, but every day since then, Kamala just keeps telling us that she's gonna continue exactly what Biden did.

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 48 points 3 weeks ago

literally the easiest election ever for the democrats, and they will still lose to fucking low energy trump lol

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 48 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Axios has an article out about infighting between Biden's and Harris's staff. I didn't post it because it was a nothingburger of a read, but I guess it's a sign they might be gearing up to pin a loss on Joe.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I mean it is at least partially his fault, but also it’s a fault that Harris can and should completely eliminate if she wanted to win

Why is he still president??? Fucking 25th amendment the man and you don’t have to worry about that anymore. And continuing to allow him to rule is an incredible failure of her basic responsibilities in her current job.

But she won’t do that because she supports all of his worst policies and opposes only his best, so if she got rid of him the ability to blame someone else goes away and it becomes obvious how bad she sucks.

[–] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

But if they 25th Biden, then Kamala can't serve her anointed 2 terms as president powercry-2

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah she can, term limit doesn't apply for people who took the position more than 2 years into a term. LBJ, for example, was allowed to run for a thirs time, but opted not to because of how unpopular Vietnam war made him.

Edit: exact text:

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

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[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago

The way axios articles are written makes me want to toss my router onto the grill

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[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 46 points 3 weeks ago

Dems will lose to prove fealty to Israel

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 42 points 3 weeks ago

What other group will they talk down to next to rectify this?

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 40 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

It's like they're both trying to lose.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago

What’s even funnier is that all Kamala had to do was do the one thing democrats are good at: doing NOTHING! Just say they will take no more action in aiding Israel and Ukraine, and boom. EZ clap.

But no. Dems think that will “alienate the working class by being too woke” so they won’t do it.

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[–] Rom@hexbear.net 37 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Flaps@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago

At this point i fully believen that for the wider world, American elections are pointless. Who gives a shit about the next administrator of US imperialism. Wether its Trump or Harris, blood will keep being sacrificed to the blood god that is capital. International law has proven itself meaningless when war crimes are being comitted by the west and its allies, so what are institutions like the UN and the ICC supposed to be? The fact that western media still treats this election as some extremely important global event, with live updates starting as far back as july shows the utter derangement of the average western liberal. The emperor has no clothes but the west is tripping over itself to praise his sense of fashion.

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

lose, you piece of shit

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago

Congratulations Harris. Get ready to become more than a president. She will become light itself planet-hillary

[–] homhom9000@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I don't know if I'm online too much, and I'm definitely not smart enough to put things together, but it seems like these next few years will determine the next few decades and neither Trump nor Kamala wants to deal with that. To elaborate, war is on the horizon, the targets are China, DPRK, Iran, and Russia, and the events are already being set in motion. The wars will be both cumbersome, expensive, and potentially unpopular and blame and vitrol will be on whoever wins this next election. So with that said, neither party really wants to win nor deal with whatever turmoil comes from these upcoming conflicts. If Democrats want to keep the very little bit of legitimacy they have, they'd lose the next election , blame Trump for the wars and economic downfalls, and pick up whatever is left in 4-8 years.

My timelime might be off though.

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[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago

Election wins don't just fall out of a coconut tree.

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[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Islamophobia among liberals in 3, 2, 1...

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