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[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 48 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Axios has an article out about infighting between Biden's and Harris's staff. I didn't post it because it was a nothingburger of a read, but I guess it's a sign they might be gearing up to pin a loss on Joe.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I mean it is at least partially his fault, but also it’s a fault that Harris can and should completely eliminate if she wanted to win

Why is he still president??? Fucking 25th amendment the man and you don’t have to worry about that anymore. And continuing to allow him to rule is an incredible failure of her basic responsibilities in her current job.

But she won’t do that because she supports all of his worst policies and opposes only his best, so if she got rid of him the ability to blame someone else goes away and it becomes obvious how bad she sucks.

[–] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

But if they 25th Biden, then Kamala can't serve her anointed 2 terms as president powercry-2

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah she can, term limit doesn't apply for people who took the position more than 2 years into a term. LBJ, for example, was allowed to run for a thirs time, but opted not to because of how unpopular Vietnam war made him.

Edit: exact text:

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

[–] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

Well shit, I forgot about that

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

As long as it’s past the halfway point of the term it wouldn’t count against her. With just a few months left she could do two more terms if she wanted.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

I think the real reason, originally at least, was plausible deniability.

There was a ton of "look she's only the vice president, you can't blame her for Biden's unwavering support for genocide," early on.

At this point she's made it clear that Biden is governing exactly how she would anyways, so I don't know why they still keep up the charade, maybe inertia? Election is less than a month out anyways.

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago

The way axios articles are written makes me want to toss my router onto the grill

[–] WorkingClassCorpse@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I get the distinct feeling that either Joe is checked out completely and not helping consult her campaign at all (other than because he's toxic to her image), or Harris' team has decided to take the direction of Clinton against the Biden-team's objections.

They really have committed to a distinctly different strategy from Biden, so it isn't surprising at all that there'd be a lot of in-fighting.

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I keep forgetting that shambling corpse is still technically president. When was the last time he even appeared in public? Or had an interaction with someone that wasn't scripted and stage managed?

I think the only reason they haven't 25th amendment'd his ass is because then Kamala would have to be president and take on all the baggage of the office right before the election. Not that it would make that much of a difference at this point...

[–] WorkingClassCorpse@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yea, 100% it's a political calculation.

Not only would Harris be saddled with all the shortfalls of Biden's administration, but republicans would probably paint her as a power-hungry tyrant for pushing out her predecessor (they already are).