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[–] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

say it with me everyone,

"your status as a 'capitalist' relates directly to your access to the means of production. If you are a worker, even white collar, you are not a capitalist"

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"but paper pushers aren't REAL hardworking MEN!" frothingfash

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yet as finance and business became more complex, the link from wealth to ownership of the means of production to managerial authority eroded.

Lol. Lmao even

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“Marx was wrong because the modern worker has seven bosses on three different levels of the corporate hierarchy.”

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Libs will then say in the same breath: "corpos have more efficient bureacracy than the state smuglord "

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No object permanence with these people, if something is obscured then it must have dissolved

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We have refined finance to such a point that commodities now just materialise out of the ether through some kind of capitalist magic.

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

This is what capitalist economists actually believe.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

No object permanence with these people, if something is obscured then it must have dissolved

That's why covid is over! maybe-later-honey corona

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

Even if you have a we are all freelancers now mindset, can you honestly say that I own the means to production for what I do on my computer when a third party owns a lot of the data physically on the device and I need to pay a whole bunch of rentiers for the stuff I need for my job?

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

Vibes-based distributism

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

did you even lrn2code if you can't write your own linux distro

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 35 points 2 months ago

"We are all liberals now"

Hexbear owned

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Ok, cool. When do I get my capital?

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not reading that but I can already guess the "capital" is your laptop and your phone because this was written by a trustfund baby who thinks everyone is a "digital nomad".

[–] The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Everyone can create resell websites online! so-true

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

NFTs were pitched as pretend internet capital, complete with promises of collecting rent off of owning them.

soypoint-1 all-my-apes-gone soypoint-2

[–] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"capitalism is when you have a iphone" i don't know where this liberal bullshit came from but whoever wrote that article needs to shut the fuck up. they literally do not know what capitalism is, or what it means to be a capitalist. these people's relation to any sort of productive means is obviously that of a worker. they are not capitalists lmfao. "being exploited for your labor but instead of directly having a boss an app is telling you what to do, makes you a capitalist". ok that sentiment makes whoever holds it a genius who knows a lot about what they're talking about then i guess.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

i don't know where this liberal bullshit came from

It's a common conservative talking point. That's where it comes from

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago

The fuck I am. rage-cry

[–] buh@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

not gonna work with decreasing home ownership rates

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago

wdym, consumers have just expressed a strong preference for renting at rates comically higher than mortgages

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago

"The home you own" I'm gonna stop ya right there bud

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

The home you own?

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

Heh, looks like I'm a billionaire capitalist now. Bye bye you stinky proles, I'm off to Mars with my new friend Mr. Musk.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Called it. I've been around some pork circles and this is what they're coalescing around as their next pitch.

EVERYONE should be their own individual small business owner, being a businessman is the new clergy so no one will have anything to complain about when everyone's a pork. In a sense, they do want communism but only on their own terms. If the capitalist class is the only class, then it's a classless society.

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

how long before this proceeds to trying to pitch gig work as "passive income" via some incredibly convoluted logic

[–] HamManBad@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's always been their pitch, I'm pretty sure it's even discussed in the manifesto when Marx talks about petty bourgeois socialism.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Holy shit, I really need to start reading more theory.

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

It’s not new, this is what the American project has always been about - everyone a yeoman farmer

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

In a sense, they do want communism but only on their own terms. If the capitalist class is the only class, then it's a classless society.

Sounds a lot like what my-hero babbled about when he said he was a socialist, but only wanted socialism for those that deserved it. Secular Calvinism is a fuck.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

The entire NFT grift was promising a sort of proxy capitalism where people (that can't afford it) could hold onto pretend capital on an online ledger and try to collect rent off of it.

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dang, guess I owned the means of production all along without noticing

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

The real means of production were the friends we made along the way.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

improve-society Maybe life would be more affordable if we nationalized some things.

very-intelligent You want to improve yet your are forced to participate to functionaly live. How very hypocrite of you.

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I took a selfie and all I can see is some liberal

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

Nice attempt to make my-hero look as cool as possible. lenin-dont-laugh

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Ha, what even is this

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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