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I didn’t read it yet is it good lol punished-bernie punished-bernie punished-bernie

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[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Only the white man possesses the creativity lobe, all other races can only produce lesser imitations of his works." - a thing liberals actually believe but they're totally not racist because they like Hamilton

[-] wantToViewEmojis@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

dont make me tap the sign

"The Russians never invent anything. All they have, they’ve got from others. Everything comes to them from abroad—the engineers, the machine-tools. Give them the most highly perfected bombing-sights. They’re capable of copying them, but not of inventing them. With them, working-technique is simplified to the uttermost. Their rudimentary labour-force compels them to split up the work into a series of gestures that are easy to perform and, of course, require no effort of thought." - Adolf Hitler

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

Weird how liberal thought keeps echoing Hitler. Ah well, I'm sure it's just a coincidence

[-] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 1 year ago

The "stolen IP" story is fun because it represents an unstated assumption that only the West has good ideas.

When their years of long-term thinking and investment in R&D pay off, will the people kvetching today be willing to license Chinese designs?

I note that the new high speed rail project being promoted in Texas is based on old shinkansen designs from Japan; I wonder if it was just too much lost face to consider a CRH derived design?

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

It's also fun because if it was true, it would be proof that the copyright and patent system is stifling for development, competition and innovation

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

who cares about stolen tech, even if they did that would be better for carbon emissions

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

noooooooooooooo! you're solving the climate crisis but you stole our trademarked things to do it!!! you motherfuckers better put that carbon back in the air and do it the RIGHT way!

[-] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Love being a "life-long socialist" who values IP laws over human progress

How has he forgotten great Randian hero Elmo who keeps trying to steal WeChat and somehow instead blasts pollution all over the American southwest and gets 9000 FAA violations

[-] Maoo@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

China "stealing" tech is good, but most of the time this complaint isn't even referring to IP infringement or anything clandestine. It's just the tecg transfer agreements that companies happily sign in order to move production to China.

[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Referring to microchips maybe? Not technically incorrect but I'm confused why it's "wrong"

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have not seen a single credible source that China stole technology for microchips

If you're talking about that singular dude who stole from ASML then that's just a dude

A dude that rocks, might I add

[-] pooh@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

People also forget that the Snowden leaks revealed the NSA was conducting industrial espionage against companies in Europe and China that compete against US companies.

[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

I believe they purchased chips from NVIDIA and AMD no? I see quite a few news stories upon a first duckduckgo but I'm not really sure what to believe on this one.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Anybody can buy chips from NVIDIA and AMD, I'm not sure I follow

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

I believe the suggestion is that they then reverse-engineered them and used what they learned in violation of IP law. I don't follow this, so I don't know if it's true, and I would support China doing this because fuck those companies and the US, but I believe that's the accusation.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yea I mean I know China has reverse engineered a lot of Soviet and Russian weapons exports but I don't think chips and semiconductors is the same since the difficulty is in manufacturing and not what's in it

Companies generally have to transfer IP to even operate in China which is why the stealing IP generally doesn't even have to happen

[-] charlie@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Thanks, this finally makes me gets what they're actually saying with that stupid "China is stealing IP" mouth fart.

[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

The more I thought about it, the less it made sense; at least how it was built up in my head.

They were just purchasing the chips, and now the USA is trying to block those purchases AND encroach all around the SEA sea while positioning China as aggressors.

Do no Chinese firms have schematics for the chips to be made in Taiwan? Or will this just force China to design their own based on the current top-of-the-line?

I'm not against it, I'm merely posturing questions to learn.

[-] zephyreks@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago

Semiconductors are hard.

First you need the lithography machines (ASML). Then you need the process development (TSMC, Samsung, Intel). Then you need the EDA tools (Synopsys, Cadence).

SMEE announced a 28nm-capable lithography machine, SMIC has a gimped 7nm process, and Huawei has EDA tools capable down to 14nm.

However, necessity is the mother of invention. I'm expecting the next few years to see an explosion in specialized hardware coming out of Chinese companies.

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