I was curious if there was any documentation on the UAP in Magenta, Italy that David Grusch mentioned in his interview. Per Grusch, a craft was recovered in Magenta, Italy in 1933 held by Mussolini’s government in 1944-1945 and then obtained by the US after the Vatican notified them of it’s existence.
I came across an article from January 2, 1933 about a meteor seen over Turin, Italy heading northeast towards Magenta, Italy.
“At a certain point therefore, in the direction of the Valentino park and somewhat above the line that the Turin hills mark on the horizon, a large luminous point appeared in the sky, shining with a vivid and very white light. The bright celestial mass, following a trajectory similar to that of shooting stars, but very long and streaking the blue with an incandescent streak, moved very quickly from south to north-east, i.e. following a path inverse to that of the sun and of the moon.”
The meteor then exploded near Monte Rosa, which is just north of Magenta, Italy. “the meteor exploded, flaked, divided into two or three radiant tongues, and then went out.”
Obviously, not much else to go on and the details of the alleged incident are already vague. But, it seemed like a possible match to the event to me. Full translated text via Google Translate below. Thoughts? I’m currently looking for other articles on the event.
Translation: "Shining meteor in the sky of Turin The Interesting Celestial Phenomenon - People’s Comments and Inferences
An interesting celestial phenomenon that is all the more remarkable as it occurred during the day, occurred in the sky above our city.
It could have been 5.10 or 5.15 pm and the day was very clear, as the sun had just started to set after a wonderful New Year’s day. Many people were out on the streets at that hour, going out for a walk or heading home after enjoying the clear winter afternoon in the avenues and gardens.
So many have had the opportunity to observe what happened in the clear atmosphere at the aforementioned hour. We describe the commode phenomenon noticed from Piazza Castello. At a certain point therefore, in the direction of the Valentino park and somewhat above the line that the Turin hills mark on the horizon, a large luminous point appeared in the sky, shining with a vivid and very white light. The bright celestial mass, following a trajectory similar to that of shooting stars, but very long and streaking the blue with an incandescent streak, moved very quickly from south to north-east, i.e. following a path inverse to that of the sun and of the moon.
Having reached a point roughly corresponding to the area located between the Monterosa hamlet and the cemetery, the meteor exploded, flaked, divided into two or three radiant tongues, and then went out.
A cry of amazement was raised by those who were able to notice the marvelous phenomenon, which lasted no more than two or three seconds.
And since yesterday was New Year’s Eve, the extraordinary celestial event was immediately interpreted as an excellent omen, as an auspicious manifestation for the whole of 1933.
Within the public after the event gave rise to the most fantastic comments, all auspicious, however, all marked by the most smiling optimism.
It has been said; this is the sign that a new era is beginning. The meteor blossomed above the Valentino, on the famous park which is almost the symbol of the city, and, crossing the whole center of Turin, it disappeared near the cemetery. So happiness or prosperity for the living Turinese, peace for the dead who will no longer be crucified for the discomfort and annoyance of loved ones left in the world.
The globe of fire then traveled the sky in an unusual direction, from midday to the East, Chloe in the opposite direction to the movement of the stars of the planets.
Its meaning is therefore clear… It announces a reversal in the course of events, we will not go blue towards the crisis and bad times but we will go backwards, we will return to well-being and abundance; from the declining noon it will rise to the radiant morning, as the star proceeded from southwest to east. Finally, it is surprising that it appeared on the first day of 1933, declared by the Pope the Holy Year for the nineteenth secular anniversary of the passion of Jesus Christ.
These and other things were heard yesterday evening and this morning around the city. And since we have no reason to deny these happy popular omens, we too welcome them without reservations, that good wishes - human and supernatural - are never too much for anyone."
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