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[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 60 points 2 months ago

I post my ignorant opinions somewhere. There’s always someone who will correct me with correct information.

[-] IMongoose@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

I post my ignorant opinions somewhere. There’s always someone who will correct me with correct information.

Not always.

(see what I did there)

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago
[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 11 points 2 months ago
[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

Would you say Poe is cunning, and likes ham?

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[-] sunzu@kbin.run 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The life of the shitpoaster.

But for real comment section can be very useful to learn if you are willing to do it.

There is generally somebody who knows what they are talking about. Just got to figure out who.

Reddit had so much fluff and moderation as if they didn't want you to find good info.

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[-] Ioughttamow@kbin.run 33 points 2 months ago

Well you see I’m a major GEN er alllllllllllll

But seriously Wikipedia, YouTube guides, enthusiast forums. Usually try to read from multiple sources

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There used to be these buildings full of books that I could just borrow for free.

[-] linucs@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago

Love books and huge fan of libraries but how do you find the right book in the ocean of books?

[-] rescue_toaster@lemm.ee 21 points 2 months ago

"Don't you know the Dewey decimal system?"

Sorry, stupid reference. In seriousness though, type in a topic into your library's search and start browsing, check out a few that seem useful.

I'm an academic and I find my University's library useful for finding knowledge on a new topic. If an introductory textbook exists on the subject, can be a good starting point.

For Most hobbies though, youtube is a great resource. I've gotten into woodworking and fishing, and youtube is a superb resource for information.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago
[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Instructions unclear, dick stuck in card catalog. Send help, preferably a hot librarian.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Franz is here to help you, little man. Bend over and breath deeply. It will all be over in fifteen to twenty minutes.

[-] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago

Ask the librarian nicely and they'll probably be able to point you in the right direction. Cataloguing information is kind of their thing, and helping people get access to that information is why many of them join the profession.

[-] variants@possumpat.io 7 points 2 months ago

Just sit at the library for a while, sit near the shelf that has the topic you're interested in and grab a few books at a time and go through them to see if any seem like the right book

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I was taught in school how to use the library catalog. It was considered essential, for success in life, at the time.

I actually do know how to use Dewey Decimal, if I haven't forgotten.

In these modern times, there's generally a PC near the information desk, with the browser home page set to a library catalog search tool, specific to that library.

And as someone else mentioned, we can ask the librarian for help, when we don't find what we need. I actually shortcut the process and ask for a quick lesson in how to use the search, if I'm feeling uncertain.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 17 points 2 months ago

Don't watch or listen....READ!

[-] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Idk man. YouTube tutorials are pretty helpful. Especially when I was studying electricity. Those Indian dudes are geniuses

[-] bitfucker@programming.dev 8 points 2 months ago

Why do we have teachers then? Listening and watching is absolutely a valid strategy of learning. You just need to make sure that the speakers are trustworthy on the subject.

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[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago
[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 15 points 2 months ago

Watch and read as much youtube and article as possible, and try to join a discussion with open mind.

[-] Shard@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I'd caveat that with watch reliable well researched channels and not pop-sci or even god forbid pseudoscientific, or pseudo-intellectual channels that seem helpful but are actually BS wrapped in foil.

Any of the PBS science channels are typically good for science.

How money works, Wendover, are great for Economics stuff.

The engineering mindset, practical engineering are great for engineering related stuff.

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[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

My flat earther forums have a stickied Q&A where you can find the real truth on any topic. Did you know that dolphins are aliens sent to spy on us?

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 12 points 2 months ago

No, that's mice.

Dolphins are native but capable of space travel as they are far more intelligent than us. It's an understandable mistake to make.

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[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

Read. Write. Execute. RWX. I'm going to piss some people off. Here goes: you are wasting your time if you watch videos. At all. A video moves at the pace it plays. It is linear. You can't jump around easily. Reading? You can jump wherever you need immediately. You can have multiple sources at once. If you use a book, yes a physical book, you learn where things are and jump right to them. Read

Write down a paraphrased version of what you read. Do not copy. Include references so you can return to source if needed. Note taking is a skill. Your notes should be organized in a way you can skim what you wrote as easily as the sources themselves.

Execute. You don't learn anything unless you do it. I've had too many students who watch Khan Academy, and think they understand it when they haven't done it. They don't score well on exams. Not my fault. I told them they have to do it to understand it.

RWX. I await the flame war I just started with the video people.

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[-] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Wikipedia rabbit holes every time lol.

I am fascinated by medical stuff, especially conditions I have and similar conditions. Spent like 2 weeks reading about so many kinds of diseases.

[-] OhmsLawn@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

The same way as topics in my field of expertise, of course.

YouTube.

[-] linucs@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Follow up question: how do you find actual good and trustable channels on a specific topic?

[-] monsterpiece42@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not the other guy but I learn a lot of high quality information of YouTube. The golden rule for me is longer-form video is generally higher quality. People that know what they're talking about typically aren't going to explain complex things in 30 seconds, or at least not to the depth you should understand it.

Aside from that, I look for people with actual qualifications first. Example, I love psychology so I will look for psychologists, licensed professional counselors, and so on. I'll even listen to life coaches, but more selectively.

The lower on the "chain" they are, the more I will do "spot checks" on information and see if they know what they're talking about (ESPECIALLY if they're making big or new claims about something). For that I'll look into peer-reviewed studies and such for that.

Once you get a small knowledge base it's a little easier to continue. Talk something you have a clue about, and watch a video with that topic from another content creator.

Do all of this for a while and you'll find what you need to.

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[-] DrBob@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

A review paper from a reputable journal. The Annual Reviews series was great for this. Some of the Nature journals also used to run mini-reviews associated with research papers in the issue.

[-] The_v@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

For lesser known subjects, a literature review in a dissertation works. It at least gives you a list of papers to review.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 months ago

Wikipedia and books, depending on the subject matter and my degree of interest. For example, I've been reading historical research books because I love history. If it was something about the moon, it'd be Wikipedia and good enough.

[-] Vampire@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

sci-hub and annas-archive

I want to be less reliant on Wikipedia and Google Scholar, but in truth I still use them a lot

[-] linucs@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

So you directly read papers on those topics? I tried doing that but I feel it requires a huge amount of background

[-] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

I am not the person you are replying to.

I read a lot of papers and it is hard if you don't have background knowledge of the subject. If it's something I am really interested in, then I will dive deep, if it's not I will probably let it go when I get to the point where I no longer grasp what's being said.

[-] explore_broaden@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago

Why do you want to be less reliant on Wikipedia?

[-] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Curious about this one too

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[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

I skim the Wikipedia page on whatever topic is being discussed and pretend to be an expert.

[-] Xianshi@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I watch videos and read articles and use LLMs to give me the key points to grasp the basics. Then build upon that knowledge with more focused learning.

[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I do this plus follow competent people in those fields on Mastodon/reddit/etc for current news relevant to practitioners in the field

[-] carturo222@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

My first stop is always Wikipedia. The rest of the internet is a minefield.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Same way I’d inform myself on topics that are my field of expertise: reading, talking to experts, doing my own experiments and exploration, writing about it

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[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

That's what a forum is for.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Escalate. Start with early digestible low quality sources (AI chat bots, short YouTube videos, old Reddit threads, etc.) to build a general familiarity with the subject matter space.

Once you grasp the basic vocabulary and concepts, you know well enough what questions to ask to find more nuanced discussions and the right Wikipedia rabbit holes.

If you need more comprehensive understanding than that, use your newfound familiarity to start skimming primary sources.

Once you get more involved than deep dives into primary sources, you start blurring the lines of developing a new area of relative expertise.

[-] Barx@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

You have to set a goal of what you want to understand and why you want to understand it, then read accordingly. If your goal is to know the usual number of eggs laid by a bird because you are trying to identify one from its nest in your yard, sure just read some Wikipedia and maybe read its sources. If you need to understand a broad topic in the social sciences in order to do your job or organize politically, well sucks yo be you, you need to spend months to years getting a handle on the various schools of thought and approaching them humbly and critically, reading many books.

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