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American butter is shit tbf
A good example why nationalism and pride about it makes no sense. Most people had no choice in where they are from, and had no influence on something like this. Having pride in something you did not influence and had no choice in is really weird and kind of narcissistic.
This is why it gets toxic and dangerous easily. We see similar issues with fans of sports teams, even though the fan has literally nothing to do with the team.
its just an ancient tribal instinct. oh, you're from the squirrel bones tribe? pssh, your berry bushes are shit. rat skull tribe have best berry bushes, and we have stream. squirrel bones tribe have no stream and bad berry bushes
Your sportsball team is shit. WE smashed you!
We!?! Really bob? Pretty sure you passed out and pissed yourself that night...
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This is about butter, not nations. The nations are merely places in which the butter resides.
reminds me of JP Sartre: by disparaging the jews, the anti-semite instantly puts himself into a superior group without having to actually do anything.
Nationalism works the same way. "I belong to THIS socially constructed group! We do such great things!" as if they built the community from the ground up and weren't just thrown into a world with systems already in place independent of them that helped produce the things they're proud of...
Like sure community is a thing but at a certain point doesn't it get quite arbitrary what you take credit for? and doesn't that also mean we have to take credit for all the bad things too? every Palestinian would become Hamas and every American a drone pilot. those are precisely the reasons I am not patriotic and i dont find "shut up, frog" jokes funny. "just" tribalism? "just" a wee cheeky bit o fash in the mornin?
The secret is the west coasts.
The french guy was talking about butter from Bretagne. West coast Irish butter is amazing. West coast Scottish butter is amazing.
Know why? Because it absolutely pisses down with rain almost every fucking day in west coast Atlantic areas, the grass grows like triffids and the cows eat themselves silly
Quite simple
I choose to believe it's their mutual hatred of England that makes their butter taste good.
I shall be adopting "like triffids" into my everyday vernacular from now on.
Kerrygold 🥰
You don't think it's gonna make a difference, but once you eat a stick of it, you'll know.
You eat it by the stick?
If you want to make Homer’s patented out of this world moon waffles you do.
I definitely recommend going to the Butter Museum in Cork which is essentially a Kerrygold museum.
There are excellent American-made butters done traditionally. I hate that they're making me defend the US but they have no monopoly on shitty food. It's kinda just another form of exceptionalism.
There's no secret to good butter. Grass fed cows, fermented milk, and high fat content. It's just expensive.
Yeah, when people discuss american food they automatically think of off-the-shelf walmart stuff, mcdonalds, etc. When there are tons of artisanal food producers here, like a lot of them.
"American cheese isn't even cheese". I mean 'american cheese' is very processed. But go to Wisconsin and tell me we don't have good cheese.
There's plenty of good quality stuff in America. We just can't fucking afford it.
That French guy was just trying to butter them up.
If the guide who was saying that about butter was not wearing a scarf around his neck and smoking a Gauloises, he needs to lose his French license.
IDK man is this one of those things where as an American I grew up with like super processed chocolate and regular chocolate would just taste strange to me?
Funny enough, I also grew up on super processed chocolate, and I thought I just didn't like chocolate that much, until I got some real chocolate when I was a teen.
God, Hershey's tastes like pain and sadness.
In an upper middle class european family I often ate swiss chocolate and once my dad went to the us and bought some hersheys for us to taste. / It was like 2 girls one cup in my mouth for my refined european taste buds /s
Chocolate is a big one.
I'm talking specifically big brands, not chocolatiers, but something like Hershey's is absurd.
American chocolate is way too crumbly and oil-without-flavor with some weird mustiness; pretty much every country has better chocolate than the US.
American to international chocolate is like ketchup on a tortilla compared to a gourmet pizza.
Lemmy should celebrate French-Irish butter day. What do yo say? Your community or ours?
Irish butter is good in the summer. The Irish butter they sell in winter usually has been frozen stuff from the summer production.
Sure it's fair to have differing opinions of where the best butter comes from but Ireland likely has the oldest.
Is there really such a thing as bad butter, though?
Yes, there is butter that is like a bland grease block. Then there is stuff like Irish butter that has noticeable, variable, taste. The emulsion from high quality butter is silky smooth, creamy, and surprising light on the tongue, as opposed to leaving a greasy coating on it. The emulsion holds better as the butter melts, with better butter. The way it softens differs in ways that make it nice to cook, and bake, with. It spreads much more nicely. There really is a major difference between industrial production butter, and butter from a real creamery.
I highly suggest you get some huge corp butter, from a big box grocer, and a block of butter from a quality creamery, and then compare them. You will instantly notice the difference. Melt some of each, cook with some of each, spread some of each on some good bread, have toast with each, etc. It will be the whole experience that has improved, not just the taste.
US citizen here.
I recall making butter from scratch in grade school and it was significantly better than what we get from the supermarket.
Kind of sad that some grade schoolers can do better than a large corporation.
...come to think of it. That could have been what started my obsession with whole foods from quality sources.
Kind of sad that some grade schoolers can do better than a large corporation.
Better at what metric?
The cynical take is that the corporations did optimize for the best butter, only that their definition of "best" is different from yours.
The US has built its empire on convenience. There's plenty of solid brands out there, but the biggest and well known are the companies that cut corners and quantity so they can keep prices low. And us US citizens just eat that shit up.
Amish style butter is some of the best butter I've ever had. You can find it all over the place in the Midwest and Amish heavy states.
Betty Botta bought some butter;
“But,” said she, “this butter’s bitter!
If I put it in my batter
It will make my batter bitter.
But a bit o’ better butter
Will but make my batter better.”
Then she bought a bit o’ butter
Better than the bitter butter,
Made her bitter batter better.
So ’twas better Betty Botta
Bought a bit o’ better butter.
Absolutely just some posh dude's fanfiction
I went to a house party once that was a lot of different nationalities of Europeans. Two French guys got increasingly drunk and belligerent about the aesthetic quality of French churches versus Irish churches. To the point they had to he asked to leave because they were close to starting a fight. I've met several frenfh people over the years and theres always some spontaneous comparison between something in france vs here. OPs story is not so far fetched.
Butter from tropical South Pacific countries is high in salt. It help with replenishing minerals your body loses due to sweating.