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J.K. Rowling is embroiled in a fresh row with another Harry Potter actor over transgender rights.

Following exchanges of fire with Daniel Radcliffe and others, Rowling has blasted David Tennant after the Goblet of Fire star voiced strident views on those who speak out against trans rights.

During an appearance at the British LGBT Awards over the weekend, he called on British equalities minister Kemi Badenoch to “shut up” after she advocated for banning trans women from entering women’s toilets and sports teams.

In an interview at the same event, Tennant called transgender critics “a tiny bunch of little whinging f*ckers who are on the wrong side of history, and they’ll all go away soon.”

Earlier in the week, Rowling branded people like Tennant the “gender Taliban.” In posts on X (once Twitter) on Friday, she expanded her comments to address Tennant’s “wrong side of history” quote.

Rowling wrote: “This man is talking about rape survivors who want female-only care, the nurses currently suing their health trust for making them change in front of a man, girls and women losing sporting opportunities to males and female prisoners incarcerated with convicted sex offenders.”

She added: “For a man who’s supposedly a model of compassion and tolerance, he sure does want a lot of people to cease to exist.”

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[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 206 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Tennant called transgender critics “a tiny bunch of little whinging f*ckers who are on the wrong side of history, and they’ll all go away soon.”

Is the real headline here. And good for him.

I'd rather not give what's her name any more attention over this crap.

Also, calling Tennant a "Harry Potter actor", while true, feels like a calculated insult to a man who has played Doctor Who, The Purple Man, and Crawley.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 55 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He was also barely even in Harry Potter, if we are going by screen time pretty sure Harry potter is the least relevant part of his career.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wasn't even aware that he was in there.

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago (9 children)

He was in Goblet of Fire. Showed up briefly at the beginning and end of the movie, certainly easy to miss. More of a cameo appearance for David Tennant fans.

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[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 46 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Also, calling Tennant a “Harry Potter actor”, while true, feels like a calculated insult to a man who has played Doctor Who, The Purple Man, and Crawley.

I'm not sure it's a "calculated insult" but it did read a but oddly (I assumed initially that it was referring to someone else). I presume the writer or their editor went with that angle because because his having appeared in the Harry Potter movies is relevant to an article and fitted the wider context of JK Rowling falling out with HP cast members. I'm not convinced it was the right approach.

[–] III@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

Tennant, who once lowered himself to appear in a Harry Potter film, stated....

Better?

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm not sure it's a "calculated insult" but it did read a but oddly (I assumed initially that it was referring to someone else).

Yeah. My choice of words was a bit unnecessarily inflammatory. I struggled to find the words for how weird a choice of introduction it is, but don't mean to actually assign malice.

I don't really think the article author meant anything by it necessarily.

Your point about the context of the cast relationships makes sense. Probably why they went for it.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 164 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Tennant: TERFs are whiny fucking babies

JK Rowling, Court Jester: whines like baby

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.world 104 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 13 points 4 months ago

Extra Fabulous on It as usual

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 153 points 4 months ago (3 children)

How is it that every time we hear from the TERF in the high castle, she's somehow even more unhinged?

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 62 points 4 months ago (7 children)

When you have that much money reality ceases to exist. Rich people live in the ultimate echo chamber.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 133 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Calling someone Taliban while at the same time sharing a lot of Taliban ideology is the kind of delicious irony people like Rowling are completely oblivious to.

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 128 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

“For a man who’s supposedly a model of compassion and tolerance, he sure does want a lot of people to cease to exist.”

Critical of people she praises for compassion.

"J.K. Rowling has recently been canceled because she… did not please the fans of the so-called gender freedoms."

-Putin

Praised by fascist dictators.

And yet somehow JK thinks she is on the right side of history? 😄

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 112 points 4 months ago

Thankfully the vast majority of the cast of the Harry Potter movies ended up being decent people. They are the ones that young people should look up to, not whatever the fuck Joanne has become.

She's taking the Graham Linehan route, dedicate your whole life to bashing trans people and spreading hate against them, to the point where you ruin your entire legacy and your own personal relationships.

She can keep fighting against trans people's right to exist, but trans people will just fight back at every turn.

[–] Mighty@lemmy.world 108 points 4 months ago

So much Love for David Tennant<3

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 96 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Harry Potter actor? This man is the Doctor.

He's a national treasure.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 51 points 4 months ago (4 children)
[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 13 points 4 months ago
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[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 70 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Where can I get my membership card, shirt, and other swag as a member of David Tennant's Gender Taliban

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[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 66 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There’s a few butt-hurt TERFs here downvoting. I wonder if the endorphin rush from such a rebellious act will carry them through the day.

[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago (14 children)

Transphobes are half the reason we got rid of downvotes over here. They’re simultaneously blowhards and too cowardly to speak.

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[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 63 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I’m so glad I pirated the harry potter audiobooks and didn’t give a cent to this bigot

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[–] amio@kbin.run 61 points 4 months ago

She really is firmly determined to take anyone who's ever cast doubt on her intelligence and decency, and prove them thoroughly right.

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 55 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Rowling should have stopped saying things in like 2005 tbh

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 17 points 4 months ago (4 children)

All she had to do was hold onto the ball and run out the clock

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago

Fuck you Joanne.

[–] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 41 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The irony is that the Taliban agrees with JK Rowling on matters of gender and sexuality lol.

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[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 31 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Glad to not see the usual "separate the art from the artist" crowd that can't stop giving her money to continue to be a fucking plague on humanity.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

I expect in a Rowling vs. Tenant fight, Tenant is gonna come out with a win every time. That woman has a damaged moral compass on a good day.

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (4 children)

This man is talking about rape survivors who want female-only care, the nurses currently suing their health trust for making them change in front of a man, girls and women losing sporting opportunities to males and female prisoners incarcerated with convicted sex offenders.

It's hilarious that she's making these seem like widespread issues when most of them are literally just one incident, or aren't happening at all. These are the best examples she can come up with of legitimate grievances against trans people?

How about "bullied to suicide, denied medical care, housing discrimination, employment discrimination, and getting violently hate crimed at enormous rates" for the other side of this issue? Even if you think trans identities are invalid, at least pretend to treat them with the same respect you would other human beings. But no, trans people who are just trying to survive day-to-day are nonchalantly grouped in with pedophile rapists, as if those two things are in any way equivalent.

It's easy to hate someone when you just ignore what they really are and supplant it with something else entirely.

[–] norimee@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

As a cis female rape survivor I would choose the care of a compassionate trans woman over a judgemental TERF anytime!

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 26 points 4 months ago (8 children)

The sooner JK Rowling is charged with hate speech, the better. How the fuck has she been allowed to get away with it for so long I don’t know.

[–] DessertStorms@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

How the fuck has she been allowed to get away with it for so long I don’t know.

Those in power agree with her, and are probably glad she's so willing to do their dirty work for them

[–] Truck_kun@beehaw.org 15 points 4 months ago (8 children)

I think this is a good place to add context for those outside the UK that don't pay attention to politics, especially foreign politics:

The UK is having elections on July 4th. The House of commons has... 650 seats, of which the Conservatives (Tories, equivalent UK version of US Rupublicans) have ~350 seats.

They are expected to literally lose hundreds of seats in this elections and fall out of power. Labour (UK equivalent of US Democrats) has not been as progressive as people expected/wanted, but they are expected to be the big winners. Hopefully the UKs situation improves from the past 14-15 years of the Tories rule... seems like they've gone scorched earth, and the UK is a shadow of what it was even a decade ago.

Those same whiners in power, are about to experience a near political power extinction event.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 24 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Wait... The UK has a minister of Equalities and they're against equality? What the fuck?

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

She added: “For a man who’s supposedly a model of compassion and tolerance, he sure does want a lot of people to cease to exist.”

What a dumb cunt she is

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[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Hmm maybe if you keep attacking the people who stand for good, that means that you're the evil one with dumb, shitty, and wrong ideas? Ever think of that you dumb fuck Rowling?

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago

I would love to see a Gender Taliban declare war on JKKK Rowling. Like 20 years of protracted insurgency which reduces her to poverty before it wins.

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