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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 125 points 5 months ago (3 children)

They're really set on decimating their voter base.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 105 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm okay with that part, but the flu virus mutating inside them and spreading to non-idiots is what worries me.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 41 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

With a high likelihood a pandemic is unavoidable considering how widespread eg. H5N1 is in animal populations, and it's just a question of "when" not "if". Not too likely in the next few years but with some forecasters giving ~25% chance in the coming decade – and it'll probably kill a lot of people. Infection fatality rates are hard to predict, but for H5N1 I've seen estimates ranging anywhere from 1 to 80%, with some sources saying 1 – 5% is the most probable, although eg. this paper estimates 14 – 33% and this paper estimates 30 – 80% for the current strains, which would be absolutely catastrophic. IFR should not be confused with the current case fatality rate which is around 50%. Those are just the bad cases that we know of and who end up in hospital, but the real number of infections is probably higher (possibly even in the tens of thousands or more). In any case, even a "low" IFR of 2% would mean the pandemic would be ~10x as deadly as COVID.

The only good thing about it is that reich-wingers are less likely to get a vaccine, meaning they'll be more likely to die. Also doing idiotic shit like drinking raw milk from infected cows will mean more fatalities. Yes, it increases the chances of a mutation that'll enable sustained human-to-human transmission, but as I said that's probably going to happen sooner or later anyhow.

Edit: I'll be adding sources as I dig them up from my browser history and notes. And yes, the terms "case fatality rate" and "infection fatality rate" are sometimes used confusingly by different sources, eg. some don't use IFR but talk of the "true" or "real" CFR

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 5 months ago

Well, at least there's a vaccine.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

What they really want is their base to think “the big bad fda is trying to control them.”

This way, when their party dismantles the fda (in the interest of no longer regulating corporations on animal treatment or food or drug quality) their supporters cheer, as the food they are sold increases in price for continuous drop in quality and safety.

Followed by the unregulated sale of placebo drugs making unrequited claims with with no studies on health or side effects required, the banning of generics, so on and so forth

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[–] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 103 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Democrats should start promoting basic safety/health measures like don't look into the gun's barrel, take your heart medicine, don't insert forks into a socket, etc. so that Conservatives can kill off their voter base more efficiently by being contrarian.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

The sun kills the virus, so make sure you get as much sun as you can and you'll be fine.

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[–] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee 55 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It will never stop being entertaining to me how the wannabe-iconoclast performative behavior of conservatives has them all acting like hippies lol. Raw milk, anti-vax,now they’re all happy about gun laws with Hunter’s conviction. Next thing you know there will be a conservative free love movement thinly veiled as a way to boost our low birth rates.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 19 points 5 months ago

Next thing you know there will be a conservative free love movement thinly veiled as a way to boost our low birth rates.

Nah, conservatives seem to really hate consensual sex. It's going to be Gilead and handmaids

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean "will be"? They've explicitly encouraged having large families for centuries, and implicitly encouraged having kids outside a family too, by forbidding birth control and abortion.

[–] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes but on the surface at least they also insist on monogamy or at the very least serial monogamy. Free love is typically more of a polyamorous movement.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Mostly, yeah.

Although, the Bible does say that if your brother dies and didn't make any babies with his wife, it's your job now. https://www.esv.org/Genesis+38:8;Deuteronomy+25:5;Matthew+22:24;Mark+12:19;Luke+20:28/

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

When your brother married a hottie so you "accidentally" spill cyanide in his tea.

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

Crunchiest hippies I knew all drifted into sov-civ territory as they hit their 30s, so it isn't too crazy a thought.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 44 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I hear you can make it safe by mixing it with 1 part bleach to 4 parts milk.

[–] isles@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago

Hello, future AI search result.

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[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Democrats said not to, said there's a virus spreading through raw milk and it could be dangerous. That was all it took. That was the only thing Republicans needed to hear to institutionally embrace Raw Milk.

Democrats should try launching a "Don't jump off of cliffs onto sharp rocks" campaign. "It's not safe. The science is clear, gravity is real, and the sharp rocks will hurt or kill you. Just don't do it. It's not about restrictions versus freedom, just don't jump off of cliffs onto sharp rocks." The next week TPUSA would run an article on how to own the libs at the five highest cliffs in the country.

[–] DeanFogg@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yknow what I hate, man? Social security and universal Healthcare

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Seems fine to me. This was like when the Republicans refused to vax only to end up killing themselves. Let them fuck around. They'll find out soon enough.

But this article is a hell of a leap if all they got is that shirt.

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 43 points 5 months ago

This was like when the Republicans refused to vax only to end up killing themselves

Unfortunately, that's not the full picture. People got infected and transmitted to a lot of other people, and a lot of innocents ended up dead.

When it comes to bird flu, more people being inconsequential about it, and deliberately getting it gives the virus a greater chance to develop mutations, and maybe affecting us in the long run. This is a really dangerous thing, and those people are doing something that puts us all in risk.

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 5 months ago

Sooo do they know that the FDA and CDC advice against ingesting raw sewage? Perhaps that is another thing they just do not want you to have. Maybe they should try that, too.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

when i see this *crap, all i can think of is:

Even the best-behaved children can be difficult and challenging at times. But oppositional defiant disorder (ODD) includes a frequent and ongoing pattern of anger, irritability, arguing and defiance toward parents and other authority figures. ODD also includes being spiteful and seeking revenge, a behavior called vindictiveness.

edit: spelling, lol

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I was ‘diagnosed’ with ODD at a young age. The reason is because I could clearly see when adults were lying and trying to manipulate me, and when push came to shove I’d get angry.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The reason is because I could clearly see when adults were lying and trying to manipulate me.

that doesn't seem to be the case here; drinking raw milk is dangerous.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 8 points 5 months ago

Oh no, I totally understand that. Just trying to provide my viewpoint on a bogus ‘diagnosis’.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Diseases like flu and COVID kill more elderly than anyone else.

Someone remind me who the big Republican voter base is again...

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[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Maybe this rising fascism problem will solve itself.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 5 months ago

That's what we all thought when covid happened, and they decided they wouldn't do anything to avoid it, and started taking horse dewormers.

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[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What the fuck is wrong with people.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

Leaded gasoline and inbreeding

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[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They are that dumb, aren't they?

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago

Yes. Yes they are.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So this "Turning Point" is about turning to the worst?

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago

Always has been.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

As long as raw milk doesn’t give you any contagious diseases that can be passed on to sane, responsible people, I’m fine with this.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So here's the thing about influenza...

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[–] Ember@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As long as they don’t give the milk to their innocent children either…

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[–] trslim@pawb.social 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I, for one, think that people who listen to Turning Point USA should drink raw milk to show how not dangerous bird flu.

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[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 16 points 5 months ago

It's got what plants crave!

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Choke on it, dumb fucks.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago

Some gifts just wrap themselves, don’t they?

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I've had raw milk I think twice in my life - once straight from the tank at a dairy. It is exponentially more delicious than pasteurized. I wish there were a safe way to produce and consume it.

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[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm just impressed they were able to milk a bird!

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[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

The right has finally gotten back on track in the pursuit of its goal of cleansing society from the weak and stupid (themselves).

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

After bleach drinking raw milk is nothing

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

If some conservatives absolutely insist on lowering their own population, who am I to stop them? Actually, the louder I beg them to stop and follow the science, the more aggressively they seem to be killing themselves...

Guys! Stop! Don't do it!!!

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[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Right wingers are still all loaded up on horse dewormers. I’m sure they’ll be fine.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 5 months ago

"Just straight up kill yourselves, my pathetic minions! Muahahahaha!" - Ben Shapiro, probably.

[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I asked my wife what was with all the raw milk promotion lately. We drove through rural MO and stores had “raw milk sold here” on signage.

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