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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 154 points 5 months ago (1 children)

MFer you explained to your children that an obese elderly man invaded your house to give them a PS5 and flew away on a magical sleigh.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Or that an independently wealthy fairy sneaks into their room while they sleep because she has a thing for teeth.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 98 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (12 children)

I have to wonder about the people who are fully 100% convinced that it’s just knowing about gay/trans/queer people that “turns” their children LGBTQ.

It’s like when I asked my youth leader in Bible study when he chose to be straight and he looked me dead in the eyes and answered, “when I was 12”. I wonder if he ever figured it out.

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago

"Being gay isn't your choice. It's mine. You are gay now."

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[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 89 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I was living in military housing, which were duplexes, and one guy was concerned about the lesbian couple that moved in next to them, asking how he would explain to his young children if they heard sex noises through the wall. I asked him how he would explain straight sex noises to them. He stopped voicing his concerns to me.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 13 points 5 months ago

It was easier for deaf gay couple next door. They tend to make very unusual noises.

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[–] penquin@lemm.ee 86 points 5 months ago

It's never been about the "children".

[–] hark@lemmy.world 83 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Being able to explain things in life to your child is basic parenting.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

even if you can't you can say it, like:

  • I don't know
  • don't worry about it
  • I'll explain when you're a little older

but in reality "how will i explain to my kids" has never been a genuine question. you can say "some people do that" and that is all the explanation needed. no, this is just code for "i don't want to see this myself, and I'm using my children as an excuse".

[–] saruwatarikooji@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've found with my kids "I don't really know, how about we look it up together" is very effective.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Usually the issue is LGBTphobic parents convinced themselves anything remotely LGBTQIA is sexual in nature, and they must protect their kids, that if they actually believe it, and not just either "noble lying" (seen some christian fundamentalists admitting "it's not actually harmful, but what if it'll be too late for heaven?"), or just doing it for cruelty reasons (bigots, just like bullies, like to paint their targets as people deserving of the bad treatment).

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[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 66 points 5 months ago (16 children)

Jesus Christ... do kids really do regular active shooter drills at school now? This country is beyond fucked.

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In America they've been doing it since I was in middle school. And for good reason, too.

I almost made it out of high school without needing to utilize what we were taught in those drills, but then towards the end of my senior year some jackass kid decided to bring a gun to class and started shooting teachers and students. America is wild.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 32 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's absolutely insane that mass murders at schools have just become a fact of life in the US now, where it happens on an almost monthly basis, perhaps even more frequently than that.

In the UK we're struggling with a knife crime epidemic too. So much senseless violence taking too many lives on both sides of the Atlantic.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Craziest thing is that neither Canada nor most of western Europe is dealing with this. i.e. it's not just senseless violence, but entirely preventable senseless violence.

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[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

We do fire drills once or twice a year where I live (not the US). I've been around for forty years and I've met only two people with a firearm licence (both for shooting sport-related reasons). The European mind can understand the historical reasons beyond the 2nd Amendment, but not the fetishization of firearms.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The 2nd itself isn’t even the problem, it’s that it isn’t in any actuality followed. It explicitly says “well regulated militia”. I’m an armed leftist but nothing about US firearms is well regulated

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[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 54 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It should be broadly easier to explain that than to explain how every summer is hotter than the last which is why their chances of dying of old age is quite slim.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 48 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Do cartoons not regularly have characters in drag like they did when I was growing up? 🤔

Bugs Bunny would make himself up like a woman to confuse Yosemite Sam and Elmer Fudd all the time.

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago (8 children)

I have the greatest friend whom I ADORE who is a gay guy whose family is religious. I asked him how he got along with his mom, and he said he loves her very much and they have great laughs together, but she also tells him that gay people are going to hell on a routine basis. He and I agreed that I would be his adopted mom going forward and that he didn't need to ever feel like she was right for one moment.

Imagine saying something like this to your own kid. Imagine letting your religion be more important than your relationship with your kid. Whatever you might feel about your faith, you should have the brains God gave you that tell you you can't change anybody and that you should love them as is, and keep your damn delusions to yourself at very least. Why would you ruin your relationship with your beloved child over them loving someone?

I grew up with a gay sibling in totally the opposite environment yet in the end just as toxic; we were raised to be extremely progressive, accept LGBT people as is and love them (and I am 50 so the fact we even discussed trans people back then is nothing short of miraculous because it was so taboo), and despite being Catholic we were also super pro choice. Yet my mother literally became psychotic because of my brother being gay, despite family members kindly and gently telling her all along to accept it, when it came to HER child it was unacceptable because she thought it reflected badly on her, and she was so obsessed with us being perfect that she did everything she could to force him to conceal it, including making him bring a beard to my wedding. Finally he grew a bit of a spine and got into a relationship with a guy, and despite her histrionics has continued. Now she's obsessed with trying to make them get married, because she wants her friends to give them gifts to pay her back for all the wedding gifts she has given.

Not to trauma dump, but just wanted to point out that it can be difficult even for supposedly accepting families to really honestly support their LGBT children.

Anyway, do your part for LGBT folks. I myself just joined Stand In Pride, which is an organization where allies befriend LGBT people whose family has rejected them, and are available to be chosen family for weddings or whatever. Go to Pride, give out free mom hugs, step in as chosen family for them, whatever you can do. This world is really terrible to gay people no matter what progress we've made.

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

If, according to their own rules, that god created everything, it created LGTB+ people too. Are they saying their perfect imaginary being made a mistake? And if "it's the devil's work", is it so weak that it can't prevent it?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's so stupid. A local church which was kind of a hip young church recently announced they were not LGBT affirming and were really nasty about it,, and like two thirds of their congregation left as a result. Even modern Christians don't approve of this anymore.

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[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Are they saying their perfect imaginary being made a mistake? And if “it’s the devil’s work”, is it so weak that it can’t prevent it?

The usual answer to this is that God gave man free will, and he can use that free will to act against God (or else the garden of Eden myth would be impossible) and if you choose to be gay, that's on you. That being LGBTQ+ is a choice is pretty fundamental to it, and also why they tend to believe in things like conversion therapy - if it's a choice, you can be taught to choose differently.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How to explain drag to a child: "Some men like to dress up like pretty ladies and perform songs."

Gosh, that was so hard.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But but but I need them to understand why it makes me feel strange things and that's why they're going to HELL

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

If you don't teach your children that there are only two genders and that only heterosexuality is ok then you don't have to explain it to them at all. Our children were exposed to our lesbian friends including a lesbian couple and our gay friends including a gay couple from the days they were born. They met one of my trans friends when they were very young. If you don't teach children to hate then they won't hate. If you struggle with how to speak to your children about these things then you've already failed them and the future.

There have always been gays and trans people. There will always be gays and trans people. Get the fuck over youselves.

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[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That’s how it was explained to me as a kid. But it was also made clear how it plays a pivotal role in aviation. Unfortunately it did have lifelong damage done to my sister, she grew up to be an aerospace engineer

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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"It's like Halloween for grownups."

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 17 points 5 months ago

"Probably involves more sugar too when you look at the drinks on offer at a lot of places..."

[–] vingetcxly@thelemmy.club 16 points 5 months ago

Just say its the force of air hitting the object as it moves, and since it hits in the opposite direction, it slows down the object. What RU talking abt in the second paragraph it has norelation to drag

[–] Alenalda@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

I was first introduced to drag in my childhood through cpl Klinger on MASH. I never really had a conversation about it with my family, but Klinger was always one of my favorite characters on the show and imo had the strongest character arc of all of the cast that lasted the entire run.

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