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In response to some shitlib posting the picture below accusing the Soviet Union of being an ethnonationalist state, which is fucking wrong by the way, the good historian "After History" pokes their head out to fucking thrash the shit out of them with facts and logic.

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From Ukraine to the Caucuses to Central Asia, the USSR encompassed territory that included, at one point, 1/6 of the earth, representing an incredibly diverse array of cultures. It’s inaccurate to reduce the USSR, and it’s cuisine, to a single ethnicity

In the world of food, the Soviets attempted to give equal attention to the multitude of Soviet national cuisines, which was reflected in state cookbooks. Georgian food grew especially popular, becoming a popular “exotic” cuisine and a staple of middle class Soviets households

Notably, the Soviets did not give a central role to Russian food, and emphasized the diverse nature of the new Soviet diet which was to reflect the ideals of a “fraternal brotherhood of nations.” There was a concerted effort to popularize the cuisine of Soviet minority cultures

The Soviet state funded the domestic production of ingredients specific to different national dishes, promoting the individual cultural/national identities within the USSR, while also celebrating a broader Soviet patriotism rooted in “domestic internationalism.”

It is important to note that minority cuisine was not appropriated or assimilated within a host culture, as seen in certain colonial societies, but promoted within the Soviet context of indigenization—state-led affirmative action policies of minority nation building

Food is just one example—this extended to many areas of cultural life. Soviet policies of “multiculturalism” long preceded those in the West, which still, to this day, do not match Soviet minority nation building in their scale, sophistication, or ideological commitment

“From Soviet Cuisine to Kremlin Diet: Changes in Consumption and Lifestyle in Twentieth-Century Russia” by Tatiana Voronina (book chapter)

“Familiar Strangers: The Georgian Diaspora and the Evolution of Soviet Empire” by Erik R. Scott

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[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

accusing the Soviet Union of being an ethnonationlist state

Lmao this lib shit is the same thing they do with China (they say China is a "han ethnostate" whatver that means), and guess it's origins — fascists!

Liberals will always side with fascists and use their talking points

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago

Like clockwork, always like clockwork. I'd be more miffed if it wasn't entire predictable at this point.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Okay fascists I can give a pass to because they're dumb as dogshit but liberals should know better than to claim a country that spans 11 time zones had only ONE culture.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

They use the so-called Uyghur genocide as proof that it's an ethnostate. Pure brainworms.

[–] VapeNoir@hexbear.net 28 points 5 months ago

I was reading a travelogue by a Canadian academic in 1960's Siberia and all of the professors and officials in the eastern cities were ethnic Siberians that were multilingual in Russian and their indigenous languages. One of them asked the author how many indigenous professors there were at his university and he replied "Two. In all of Canada."

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I once saw a picture of plombir and I wanted to nuke the entire soviet union.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

How dare you, Stalin worked very hard to give the Soviet people ice cream!

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago

Lady Izdihar's website is full of magazines for both internal and international distribution. Nearly every one has articles about the various goings-on within the various republics, including fashion, food, culture, and just cool things going on. They're all fascinating, and gives you a glimpse into what was going on at the time.

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

Lib brainworms are so weird: they 100% believe there's a continuity from tsarist Russia through the USSR all the way to Putin's Russia; it's all just a Russian Nationalist Empire to them, never mind the fact that there was a capital R Revolution or that the collapse of the USSR might have changed things.

But when you ask them about Western Imperialism... well they might concede that the British Empire was not just fun and games, or that the Trail of Tears was unfortunate -- but now... everything has changed, and there's no Western Imperialism, you silly goose (even though there's a literal continuity, literally the same states ruling the USA and UK as before)