Square Enix is slowly starting to realize that locking out a significant part of its potential customers with platform exclusivity will lead to most of those potential customers not buying their shit. It's like the first vestiges of conscious thought are starting to appear within their leadership.
this post was submitted on 21 May 2024
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I am happy it's on Steam, but admittedly Kingdom Hearts 3 is not the main offender here when they still have games trapped on single consoles. KH3 was already on PC, it's just more accessible now. Can't say the same about Final Fantasy 16 or Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth. Hopefully that is what they fix next.
They're both timed exclusives, and Square have said that they'd stop platform-exclusive releases after those two games failed to meet shareholders' expectations. Whether they'll actually go through with it, or get saturday morning cartoon villain yen sign pupils when Sony makes their next offer, I have no idea.
And then after saying that they’ll probably put it on epic games store first :/
Do I need a calculator to figure out which order to play these games in?
If you boot it up they give you the order to play it in. There is only 1 problem and it's at the beginning. They tell you to watch 358/2 before playing 2
DO NOT DO THAT IT SPOILS A MAJOR PLOT IN PART 2
Play it in this order
1
Chain of memories
2
358/2 days
I can’t see myself paying £60 for games that came out on ps2 which were then remastered and rereleased in 2014. Too little too late in this case :’(
Welcome to the current state of Square Enix.
I know it's not the same, but it gives off similar energy as Sony RE releasing all the previous Spider-Man movies to theaters because Madame Web flopped so hard.
If only it was just SE that's loke this...
I agree full price is steep, but to be fair 1.5/2.5 is like 4 or 5 different games (plus a few cinematic movies for lore from the obscure handheld games) in one and the remasters are actually really well done and add a bunch of content. I don't know how they perform on PC though since it's a Square port.
Ditto. If these were FFVII-style remakes, sure... but for a two-decade old franchise whose last release was half a decade ago... I'd consider $20.
£20 for the complete collection then maybe we’ll talk lmao
The stories already fucky enough as it is in Kingdom Hearts, without doing a FF7 remake to it and releasing each game in chunks for a total cost of 200+ bucks for each game.
Just wishlist and wait for Steam sale.
The names for these games are so weird. Am I reading that right 1.5 + 2.5 and then 2.8 ?
1.5 kind of makes sense. It holds Kingdom Hearts 1 and a remake of the GBA game that comes before Kingdom Hearts 2 (also comes with a the cutscenes of another game between 1 and 2). I guess they wanted to keep the naming similar because 2.5 comes with Kingdom Hearts 2 and...a prequel to every game... and a cutscene collection of some weird side game about an AI. They then released a bundle of both of these on PS4 which they named 1.5+2.5. 2.8 they were really scrambling. Because they wanted to release the rest of the games in some way before Kingdom Hearts 3 so that holds a sequel to Kingdom Hearts 2, A standalone demo for 3 and...a movie from the earliest part of the series that actually is a giant pit of questions with no answers which may or may not have been answered by the gacha. No idea.
Surely they've updated 3 by now? Couldn't they call it 3.128? /j
It all makes so much sense now....
I like the idea of these games but the execution was way way more complicated than it needed to be.
As a huge fan of these games... absolutely. I keep coming back because I love the characters so much and the story arcs within each game can be fairly satisfying, but the overarching plot is a complete mess.
Man I hate it when I want to start playing a new franchise and I need a whole book to figure out what order to even play the games in
To learn Kingdom Hearts lore going in blind you'd need an autistic kid who's hyper-fixated on it, a couple cases of monster energy, and a weeks worth of LSD micro doses.
That should get you up to speed on about 50% of it.
Not only are the numbers weird, the games within the series (more than just the main 3) came out as exclusives to a wide variety of platforms. KH has such a bizarre history.
This isn't even the tip of the naming weirdness this series has.
I've seen an hour long video essay that focused entirely on how they named the games.
Yes. That is correct.
To the point where I legitimately thought it was a mockery of the series. Oof.
As long as it took to get these games on steam, I've completely lost interest.
God yes. I could not stomach buying this on Epic
gotta be deck compatible right?
I'd hope so and square enix has been... improving, but their track record of ports even working properly on an average windows PC is not super great. I'm still hoping I'm wrong, but betting against it launching in verified status and kinda 50/50 on it working at all on my steam deck.
Probably not fully, unless they actually do work on the games. The cutscenes on some of the games play with a proprietary protocol that even Proton-GE can't run. So, while the game works, the cutscenes don't.
It's feasible that they will fix it, but I consider it highly unlikely.
Do you have any documentation on this you can link because it doesn't really make sense what you mean and I love learning about these things. Most of the cutscenes will be rendered in engine so nothing special there, and the pre-rendered ones if they used an unusual codec I don't get why the codec isn't baked into the game files which would render that also a moot problem.
https://github.com/FlaareZero/Kingdom_Hearts_Collection_Linux/blob/main/how_to.md https://github.com/KHOmega/KH-PC-and-Linux-Setup/blob/main/vanilla-linux-setup.md
The codec for prerendered cutscenes isn't baked in.
Okay, that's pretty lame. According to several spots (all quoting an RPGsite writer and an emoji response from a Sqenix dev) square Enix actually brought in a third party company specifically to improve Steam Deck support. Honestly makes sense, the steam deck seems like their largest potential new customer base.
Epic Crap Store having one less exclusive is always good to hear about.
They don't care. They already got what they wanted.
No, they always want more.
Finally!!! Thank god i don’t have to shill 60(+) dollars to Epic just to get it on PC!
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Great. Now do Xenogears next.
Xenosaga first.
I think that one would have to come from Bandai.
Both would be amazing.
How many Xehanorts is that?
Being generous with this actual estimate, there's like 22 of them.
Finally.
Uhm, yay?
Nice! I already own these on Xbox, but it's good they're moving to other platforms
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