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It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

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[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 109 points 1 year ago

we need to get the moscow time back in the sidebar

[–] Stoatmilk@hexbear.net 99 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do not get fooled, Hexbear might seem like fascists pretending to be tankies, but it is actually all a ruse to hide that they are liberals

[–] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Saying you're the one true leftist is the 420th kind of liberalism.

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

i feel so called out trans-sad

[–] VHS@hexbear.net 93 points 1 year ago (4 children)

they will literally just say anything about us. like, if you go to the_donald or /pol/, you can tell they are bigoted because they are saying slurs or barely disguised slurs, calling people r***rded, gay, "low IQ", groomer, etc., talking about defending The West or a future for white children.

here, somehow, the bigotry apparently exists in some kind of mysterious non-corporeal state that cannot be pointed to.

[–] CriticalResist8@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

If you go on /pol/, you can tell they are bigoted because they are fascists. If you go on communist lemmy, you can instead tell they are communists.

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Oh, it's here, you just have to BELIEVE :spongebob-hands-waving:

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

We're all doing a very elaborate and well-coordinated bit where we actually mean the completely opposite of what we're saying. No one ever slips up, it's very impressive

[–] Red_Eclipse@hexbear.net 87 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Middle one is how I started. Apparently lemmygrad was so "bad", that two of the instances I joined defederated it by default before anything else. I was like "Tankies, huh? I wonder what kind of nonsense stuff they like to post." So I lurked on the front page.

1 week later

Holy shit they're right.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Hey that's similar to me. Except for me it was reddit and I heard r/latestagecapitalism talking about "Chapos" and the "Dirt bag left" in hushed whispers but never saying why they were bad, so I checked them out and my first though was "Oh finally, some leftists that don't want to play nice with the right"

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[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago
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[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 86 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who are you gonna believe, me, or your lying eyes?

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 83 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe you, even though there is literally no evidence for your claims

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

very-intelligent I like what you are telling me and it agrees with my prejudices so it must be true

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 80 points 1 year ago (5 children)

When have we ever been pro-putin?! Lmao these people are delusional data-laughing

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  1. If you aren't with us, you're against us.

  2. If you're against us you're a fascist.

.'. 😏

[–] build_a_bear_group@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you admit that there has ever been a Nazi in the borders of Ukraine, or that NATO was involved in any way with the lead up to the war, your are pro-Putin.

[–] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Or if you even suggest that a few border regions in Ukraine, once a stalemate was basically reached, aren't worth the displacement of millions of people, deaths of (ultimately) a few hundred thousand+ people, destruction of the built environment of huge swaths of Ukraine outside of those regions, and the probable failure of some UA refugees to integrate elsewhere ultimately leading to "terrorism" (probably just CIA) in mainland Europe as thin justification for future US occupation of somewhere.

There's foreign aid in the face of an invasion, regardless of whether it was or to what degree it may have been provoked it's still an aggressive invasion that reveals a tremendous lack of imagination and foresight amongst Russian leadership. There's also such a thing as dumping fuel on a fire while knowing who gets to cut the loans to rebuild, and knowing who gets the friendly relations in the post-war government to secure Ukraine's plant, mineral, and labour resources for pennies on the dollar whilst they're under the heel of austerity....

[–] EmotionalSupportLancet@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Those regions were pro-separatists since the war started in 2014. All of this would have been avoided if Ukraine was less genocidal towards the ethnic Russian population, but no. They had to poke the bear and posture towards nato membership.

From a realist perspective Russia did not have a choice in this. It WAS provoked entirely by the ukraine and the western instigators who encouraged it and the coup.

[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

Actually sweaty, if you don't support a first strike on Moscow you're a Russian bot.

maybe-later-kiddo

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[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You may laugh at them but these fine gentlepeople represent the current dominant economic system that managed to crush it’s opposition with sheer efficiency and might. Not so amused now, are you, fake tankies.

[–] ewichuu@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago (16 children)

I literally made an account here to ask about the pro-russia narratives and like 20 people responded to me and only 1 was sorta kinda pro-russia and that's because ukraine had been shelling where their family lived for years

i think the issue is that, it's really easy to distance yourself from differing opinions, but you still feel bad when you do it, so you have to find an excuse to not want to listen (i.e "it's all propaganda" or "they believe X gross thing") no one thinks that simplistically though

[–] edge@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We are “pro-Russia” as far as anti-Ukraine = pro-Russia. Which is to say not really, but libs see it that way.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

@HellAwaits@lemm.ee can you link me to a single pro-Putin post please? Just one.

Serious question. I'm genuinely asking you for this in good faith, I want to understand what you're talking about.

[–] Staines@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Pro-Putin posts are when you talk about the war without demanding the annihilation of all Ruzzian subhuman orcs.

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[–] Magician@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

There's solely using Umberto Eco's work to understand fascism and then there's this. The whole 2016 election didn't ruin the definition of fascism, but it certainly ruined most spaces to have conversations about fascism.

I know a lot of this shit is deliberate from fascists who have a lot to gain from muddying the water, but it's still frustrating as hell.

Like how are we supposed to have a conversation with people who think the conditions of the border camps are significantly better under Biden than Trump?

[–] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

This is nothing new, I knew people IRL who believed this about the subreddit.

Including a friend who'd been one of the primary forces pulling me to the left. It was like watching them turn into a liberal in real time.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

I saw a hexbear in the closet and it had a baby and it looked at me

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Given that these people usually direct far more hatred at tankies than fascists, I guess that means we've moved up in their estimation!

[–] Sasuke@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

guess they're mad that we don't care about being called tankies anymore

[–] nekahat@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Embracing the slur targeted to you, owning it and turning it around practically disables the offender.

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[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

It's every single post, but you have to lurk for a week until you find one post that is "fascist", that is: calls out Azovites for nazi insignia

[–] axont@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

We're all the same person and you're all my alts. I'm actually a very strange man living in an overturned T34 tank in an abandoned junkyard in Wisconsin. The best way to test whether an electrical wire is live is to drool on it and shrimp salad is racist.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

I hope the person in the middle continues lurking and eventually starts posting. they seem salvageable

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

"Fascism is when you embrace revolutionary defeatism, and the more defeatism you embrace the more fascist it is." - SPD supporter, 1914.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

I see some controversial, sus, or even downright wrecker shit on Hexbear sometimes, but I can't recall a single time anyone stanned for Putin unless you count dunking on homophobic "lol Putler gay with Drumpf" takes as stanning.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Complete uncritical support for Владимир Владимирович Путин against НАТО putin-wink :07:

[–] fuzzy@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

i dont know what this means but i agree

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Those liberal chuds are unintentionally giving us so much comedy gold

[–] christian@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The middle one is fine, the guy's basically saying "please point it out to me" in a way that won't start a fight.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah it's the kind of angle you'd use when you've snuck into a trump rally with a camera and mic and want people to say the dumbest funniest shit possible

Like damn yeah my fucking liberal aunt keeps arguing with me about that and I need some examples, can you help me out?

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