we need to get the moscow time back in the sidebar
the_dunk_tank
It's the dunk tank.
This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.
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Do not get fooled, Hexbear might seem like fascists pretending to be tankies, but it is actually all a ruse to hide that they are liberals
Except for me
Saying you're the one true leftist is the 420th kind of liberalism.
i feel so called out
they will literally just say anything about us. like, if you go to the_donald or /pol/, you can tell they are bigoted because they are saying slurs or barely disguised slurs, calling people r***rded, gay, "low IQ", groomer, etc., talking about defending The West or a future for white children.
here, somehow, the bigotry apparently exists in some kind of mysterious non-corporeal state that cannot be pointed to.
If you go on /pol/, you can tell they are bigoted because they are fascists. If you go on communist lemmy, you can instead tell they are communists.
Oh, it's here, you just have to BELIEVE :spongebob-hands-waving:
We're all doing a very elaborate and well-coordinated bit where we actually mean the completely opposite of what we're saying. No one ever slips up, it's very impressive
Middle one is how I started. Apparently lemmygrad was so "bad", that two of the instances I joined defederated it by default before anything else. I was like "Tankies, huh? I wonder what kind of nonsense stuff they like to post." So I lurked on the front page.
1 week later
Holy shit they're right.
Hey that's similar to me. Except for me it was reddit and I heard r/latestagecapitalism talking about "Chapos" and the "Dirt bag left" in hushed whispers but never saying why they were bad, so I checked them out and my first though was "Oh finally, some leftists that don't want to play nice with the right"
welcome!
Who are you gonna believe, me, or your lying eyes?
I believe you, even though there is literally no evidence for your claims
I like what you are telling me and it agrees with my prejudices so it must be true
When have we ever been pro-putin?! Lmao these people are delusional
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If you aren't with us, you're against us.
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If you're against us you're a fascist.
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If you admit that there has ever been a Nazi in the borders of Ukraine, or that NATO was involved in any way with the lead up to the war, your are pro-Putin.
Or if you even suggest that a few border regions in Ukraine, once a stalemate was basically reached, aren't worth the displacement of millions of people, deaths of (ultimately) a few hundred thousand+ people, destruction of the built environment of huge swaths of Ukraine outside of those regions, and the probable failure of some UA refugees to integrate elsewhere ultimately leading to "terrorism" (probably just CIA) in mainland Europe as thin justification for future US occupation of somewhere.
There's foreign aid in the face of an invasion, regardless of whether it was or to what degree it may have been provoked it's still an aggressive invasion that reveals a tremendous lack of imagination and foresight amongst Russian leadership. There's also such a thing as dumping fuel on a fire while knowing who gets to cut the loans to rebuild, and knowing who gets the friendly relations in the post-war government to secure Ukraine's plant, mineral, and labour resources for pennies on the dollar whilst they're under the heel of austerity....
Those regions were pro-separatists since the war started in 2014. All of this would have been avoided if Ukraine was less genocidal towards the ethnic Russian population, but no. They had to poke the bear and posture towards nato membership.
From a realist perspective Russia did not have a choice in this. It WAS provoked entirely by the ukraine and the western instigators who encouraged it and the coup.
Actually sweaty, if you don't support a first strike on Moscow you're a Russian bot.
You may laugh at them but these fine gentlepeople represent the current dominant economic system that managed to crush it’s opposition with sheer efficiency and might. Not so amused now, are you, fake tankies.
I literally made an account here to ask about the pro-russia narratives and like 20 people responded to me and only 1 was sorta kinda pro-russia and that's because ukraine had been shelling where their family lived for years
i think the issue is that, it's really easy to distance yourself from differing opinions, but you still feel bad when you do it, so you have to find an excuse to not want to listen (i.e "it's all propaganda" or "they believe X gross thing") no one thinks that simplistically though
We are “pro-Russia” as far as anti-Ukraine = pro-Russia. Which is to say not really, but libs see it that way.
@HellAwaits@lemm.ee can you link me to a single pro-Putin post please? Just one.
Serious question. I'm genuinely asking you for this in good faith, I want to understand what you're talking about.
Pro-Putin posts are when you talk about the war without demanding the annihilation of all Ruzzian subhuman orcs.
There's solely using Umberto Eco's work to understand fascism and then there's this. The whole 2016 election didn't ruin the definition of fascism, but it certainly ruined most spaces to have conversations about fascism.
I know a lot of this shit is deliberate from fascists who have a lot to gain from muddying the water, but it's still frustrating as hell.
Like how are we supposed to have a conversation with people who think the conditions of the border camps are significantly better under Biden than Trump?
This is nothing new, I knew people IRL who believed this about the subreddit.
Including a friend who'd been one of the primary forces pulling me to the left. It was like watching them turn into a liberal in real time.
I saw a hexbear in the closet and it had a baby and it looked at me
Given that these people usually direct far more hatred at tankies than fascists, I guess that means we've moved up in their estimation!
guess they're mad that we don't care about being called tankies anymore
Embracing the slur targeted to you, owning it and turning it around practically disables the offender.
EVERY
SINGLE
POST
It's every single post, but you have to lurk for a week until you find one post that is "fascist", that is: calls out Azovites for nazi insignia
We're all the same person and you're all my alts. I'm actually a very strange man living in an overturned T34 tank in an abandoned junkyard in Wisconsin. The best way to test whether an electrical wire is live is to drool on it and shrimp salad is racist.
I hope the person in the middle continues lurking and eventually starts posting. they seem salvageable
"Fascism is when you embrace revolutionary defeatism, and the more defeatism you embrace the more fascist it is." - SPD supporter, 1914.
I see some controversial, sus, or even downright wrecker shit on Hexbear sometimes, but I can't recall a single time anyone stanned for Putin unless you count dunking on homophobic "lol Putler gay with Drumpf" takes as stanning.
Complete uncritical support for Владимир Владимирович Путин against НАТО :07:
i dont know what this means but i agree
Those liberal chuds are unintentionally giving us so much comedy gold
The middle one is fine, the guy's basically saying "please point it out to me" in a way that won't start a fight.
Yeah it's the kind of angle you'd use when you've snuck into a trump rally with a camera and mic and want people to say the dumbest funniest shit possible
Like damn yeah my fucking liberal aunt keeps arguing with me about that and I need some examples, can you help me out?