Political Memes

While I like the comparison between Trump's legal troubles and Julius Caesar's, my inner pedant needs to point out that Caesar was not part of the fall of the Roman Empire. Depending on how you break up the timeline, Caesar was the beginning of the end for the Roman Republic and his heir Augustus was the beginning of the Empire.

It's funny - Caesar (and many other populare politicians) faced state repression from proclamations which suspended the normal functioning of the law and government (Senatus consultum ultimum). Nowadays the goal is to avoid state repression from the normal functioning of the law.

It's arguable he crossed the Rubicon with his armies against Rome specifically to avoid the legal consequences of losing power. Cato was living his life to ensure Ceaser would eventually face the courts. Cato would kill himself after that was made unattainable by Caesar's own coup.

“Caesar was reported to be marching against the city with an army, then all eyes were turned upon Cato, both those of the common people and those of Pompey as well; they realised that he alone had from the outset foreseen, and first openly foretold, the designs of Caesar. 2 Cato therefore said: ‘Nay, men, if any of you had heeded what I was ever foretelling and advising, ye would now neither be fearing a single man nor putting your hopes in a single man.’”-Plutarch (Life of Cato)

Julius Ceasar had to make sure he held office continuously for decades or else he would have been dragged through the courts.

I believe Julie C's rein came to an extrajudicial end.

If you asked me 15 years ago, I would have naively said that modern governments do not have this problem.

If you consider Trump's current legal situation, I'd argue we absolutely still are. The political upper crust can be in contempt of court every day of the week for a month and suffer no more than a few fines they will refuse to pay. That's assuming they've pissed off someone powerful enough to actually drop the hammer and aren't pure teflon, a la Ken Paxton or Rick Scott.

So much of the current political moment is highlighted by how utterly untouchable the major party leadership demonstrates itself to be. From Nixon to Cheney to Trump, there's no agent within the system willing to level any kind of punishment.

This leads to increasingly bold actions by people grasping for that next brash ring. Greg Abbott can throw barbed wire into the Rio Grande. Ron DeSantis can ship buses full of migrants into downtown NYC and Chicago in what amounts to a kidnapping attempt. Police in Columbia and UCLA and Austin can round up college students as trespassers within their own campuses. Etc, etc.

Just increasingly illegal and corrupt activities by tin-pot dictators who no longer fear a democratic process that's been caged and disenfranchised into obsolescence.

They would have realized those were designed to go off-road and not wasted their time on the roads with them.

The VAST majority of road damage is shipping. Online shopping and globalized split chains are ultimately where the hate should be directed.

Whereas they gave everyone grain allotments.

Also, I'd say people getting torn up by lions is a much bigger spectacle than whatever Cirque du Soleil is doing lately.

Common (stupid) german anti-american proverb:

America from barbary to decadence without the detour through culture.

Hey Elagabalus may have had problems but she was 16 and horny and maybe don’t put a horny 16 year old in charge of an empire.

Please let him be Caligula or Nero. I don't want to live through the Crisis of the Third Century.

Yes, but they weren't fully aware of the danger like the U.S. government absolutely is.

50% roughly for America, but that's distorted by being immediately after WWII. In the 60s, it was about 25%. Idk about Britain or Rome though

If you didn't know- The horse thing either didn't happen or was a prank to show the senate Caligula's contempt for them rather than a crazy man doing something crazy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incitatus