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We had a middle ground: people who wanted abortions could get them, and those that didn't want abortions didn't have them. Any retreat from that position is not a 'middle ground'.
I'm going to say here what got me banned from r/politics on Reddit.....
Krysten Sinema is literally Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter.
Yes, yes that did get me banned. Not kidding.
And I can understand why when you abuse the word "literally" like that. What you mean is that she's figuratively Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter. /s
Well....touché sir or madam. It appears that in this battle of wits I have come unarmed 😂
Not so fast friend. The literal definition includes its informal use as a synonym for figuratively. You're still good.
I got banned from r/politics for wishing Rupert Murdoch got a nasty staph infection in an article which said he was in the hospital.
I'd say it again too. Fuck Rupert Murdoch. I hope he gets a nasty staph infection.
It's not even wrong lol
Craziest part: I got a strike for using gendered language even though Dolores Umbridge is a proper name, and as far as I know both the fictional character, the actual person, and Krysten Sinema all identify as female.
I wouldn't have believed there were actually Krysten Sinema stans in the world if I hadn't experienced their wrath first hand. Of all the raucous shit I said on Reddit over the years, that was apparently the thing that was over the line 🙃
/r/Politics mods were getting pretty heavy handed near the end there. I think it was because of the constant whining from conservatives about their bullshit being called out and downvoted whenever they posted it there.
I caught a 1 week ban for something so minor I had to do a bunch of mental gymnastics to even figure out what they thought was objectionable about it. (And I can't remember what it was now.)
r/Politics mods were getting pretty heavy handed near the end there
...playing right into u/spez's hands.
Yes, yes that did get me banned.
Good. I say this as a former mega HP fan: Read. Another. BOOK.
Just because JK is a piece of shit doesn't mean someone can't enjoy HP. Further, it definitely doesn't mean that comparing Sinema to Umbridge isn't a great comparison.
HP being shit is a good reason to move on though.
Referencing a character in a wildly popular, successful, and entertaining young adult book series doesn't mean someone hasn't moved on. I haven't read any of the books since the last one came out and have read many other books that imo are far better. It's still a great reference.
If you don't like it, don't read it. No need to be a gatekeeping twat about out it though. Just keep scroll and 'move on'.
The "centrists" just want us to negotiate with the terrorists and hostage takers threatening to undermine our country unless they get what they want.
That was Roe v Wade.
That's my line!
The middle ground is: no one can force you to have an abortion.
How about... No? How about we don't negotiate with terrorists? How about Tubby goes and fucks himself?
Any Republican party that could have been compromised with is dead, and its corpse is the breeding grounds for a new party of parasitic maggots. You don't "compromise" with that.
"I want to stab you 10 times. You don't want to get stabbed at all. How about we compromise at 5?"
She fucked over progressives, left the party, and is now telling Democrats to capitulate to a religious zealot.
She's everything centrist Democrats aspire to be.
Biden has to be so frustrated that he's being put on par with someone whose claim to fame is helping people suffer from CTE.
Sinema sucks.
Tuberville is a knuckle-dragging moron.
America needs to do better.
Ew, she calls him 'Coach'.
God she is such a fuckin mercenary snake
"Why don't you and the guy who wants to stab you talk it out and come to a middle ground where you only get stabbed a little bit"
the language of cowards
Awful how she keeps calling him 'Coach.'
They're kindred spirits -- both unwilling to do anything in good faith.
The middle ground is now abortion at will for any reason. The extreme opposition to abortion bans is mandatory abortion in the 195th trimester.
Sinema. What a joke.
I presume there's a name for this common dishonest tactic of starting from a reasonable position, making an entirely unreasonable demand, then calling for "compromise."
Fifth Column might be what you are looking for
That's a term that might broadly apply to an awful lot of what's going on in the US, but I'm talking about a very specific tactic.
A very simple and exaggerated-for-effect non-political example:
An acquaintance comes to you and demands $100. You refuse and make it clear you intend to give them nothing. They then pull a gun on you and repeat their demand for $100. You steel your resolve and continue to refuse. It goes back and forth like that for a while, but you won't budge, so finally they say, "Okay then - how about if we compromise and you give me $50 instead."
That's effectively what Tuberville, through Sinema, is attempting. And it's a somewhat common political tactic - enough so that I suspect it has a name.
Someone put that corporate dick back in her mouth to shut her up. No offense ladies, but she is not one of you.
The middle ground is that they just vote on the promotions one by one, they would all pass. It just takes forever.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, the Arizona independent who left the Democratic Party last year, is calling on both the Biden administration and Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala., to soften their positions and find a “middle ground” to end the Republican’s monthslong blockade of hundreds of military promotions over a Pentagon policy involving abortion.
The remarks, which came in response to an audience question, represent a bold move by Sinema to wade into a monthslong dispute in which Tuberville has blocked promotions for more than 250 high-ranking military officers.
She waded into the Tuberville controversy as Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin this week condemned the Alabama Republican for his “unprecedented” and “unsafe” actions that has led to three branches of the military “operating without Senate confirmed leaders.”
NBC News sent Sinema’s office a series of written questions asking to describe the offer she alluded to, what sort of compromise she favors on the abortion-related policy, and whether she agrees with the criticism of Tuberville’s holds.
Asked to comment on Sinema’s remarks calling for a compromise on the abortion dispute, Tuberville spokesperson Steven Stafford told NBC News: “Coach has been open to discussions with the administration from the beginning.”
Although Sinema has bucked her party on taxes and other economic issues, she has largely aligned with the White House and progressives on abortion, voting last year for the Women’s Health Protection Act to codify the right to terminate a pregnancy and criticizing the Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.
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