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Wow its like they want us to be stupid (lemmy.world)

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[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

That's literally the whole point. I actually had a functional (as functional as it can be) conversation with one of these far right "Science is fake and evil blahblah" people recently, she outright said it.

(paraphrased as fuck)

"So you think we should not know anything about how the world around us works, or have any access to information except for the whims of some arbitrary pastor?"

"That is our natural state, Adam and Eve knew nothing and they lived in bliss. Eve ate the apple and doomed us to the misery of knowledge"

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You can learn a lot about a religion by the stories they teach. In Christianity:

Adam and Eve: Ignorance is bliss, obey Yahweh no matter what
The story of Abraham: If God tells you to horrible things like kill your son you'd better fucking do it unquestioningly
Job: Even if Yahweh makes you suffer miserably for a gentleman's bet with Satan, you'd better still praise and obey him
Noah: God will murder everyone on earth if you displease him
Tower of Babel: don't get too big for your britches or try to unify different societies linguistically and create great works, God hates this, stay fractured and obedient
Doubting Thomas: skepticism is bad, suspend that disbelief

The men who claim to speak for gods teach stories about how you'd better obey and not dissent or question their gods, usually to children before they learn to think critically.

[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are right.

Even Trump says he likes the poorly educated. And he is a conman.

[–] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Especially Trump. They're the reason why he won!

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Job always blows my mind. God should rot in hell.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yet she supports teaching what’s in her book, just not other things 🤔

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I really think even outside of religious circles that's the problem with the right. This obsession with "thinking is hard" mentalities. I can't even send an article about something to some people, completely unrelated to politics, without being accused of being political because it has more words than a Facebook meme.

EDIT: I had to cut a conservative friend out of my life recently, and a month or two before that he literally shushed me at his house and told me I was being too political before immediately talking about guns for 30 minutes. My topic?

Busses and bike lanes. Just.......give bikers a separated space instead of a sliver on the edge and that I ride the bus so it'd be pretty cool if that worked better.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s funny. I’ve had more republicans stop telling about stuff other republicans are doing…

… because it makes them uncomfortable.

Okay, but you know what makes more people uncomfortable? All this bullshit being done by a political party they vote for.

If that makes you uncomfortable… maybe don’t vote for them…

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Single issue voters who aren't particularly evil BUT don't mind extreme evil in the service of their single issue. Basically all Republican "single issues" also have some organization spending billions to convince those single issue types that "Yeah we want to genocide trans and whatnot but if we don't literally overthrow the govt a Democrat will KICK YOUR FUCKING DOOR IN AND SHOOT YOU IN THE FACE TO STEAL YOUR GUN/BIBLE/WHATEVER"

[–] Bricktamland29@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

To be fair there is bliss in ignorance. You can happily go about your life without a care right up till the repercussions force themselves upon you. For example, climate change. People made billions of dollars without considering the environment blissfully, and they will continue right up to the point that the air is unbreathable and the water is undrinkable. There is no bliss in realizing your demise, but to the ignorant these heatwaves are just a justification for their decision to buy a boat.

[–] Pumpkinbot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rebuttal: "You actually know about Adam and Eve? Like, you have knowledge of it? That's pretty evil, ngl."

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I would have a hard time not asking what toys they ordered.

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. That’s correct. They accidentally came to the proper conclusion.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Selfawarewolves?

[–] Hotdogman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Listen to me but don't listen to what I'm saying!

[–] albertsy2@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

This is literally what my Christian friend said to me when I got into university.

[–] Snowman44@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If God knows everything shouldn't learning more bring you closer to God?

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

My take on donating your money to "god". If god can make the world in 7 days, he can make his own damn money.

[–] Heir_Of_Isildur@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

The more we understand, the less we ascribe to superstition

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It's not like they want us to be stupid, they just want us to be stupid. If you're stupid, you don't ask questions.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

In other words you have to be ignorant in order to believe in their religion. That’s what I call a red flag.

[–] ram@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Flagg Center Church? As in Randall Flagg?

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

God gave us these brains to hate not to learn!

We have developed regions of the brain to help aim!

Read the Bible damnit! How many times does God require us to stone people?

The brain is for aiming rocks that God wants you to throw and it has the capacity to reason so you can use mental gymnastics to make yourself feel like a Good Person™!

Damn atheists! :P

[–] Roulette@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Man Randall Flagg running catholic schools now?

[–] charliespider@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

So no more bible studies?

[–] devil_d0c@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The American God is the God of ignorance.

[–] Baphomet_The_Blasphemer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Of course they want us to be stupid. Stupid people are easier to mislead and manipulate. Why do you think the Republicans have been at war with the education system for the last 40+ years?

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they're absolutely correct. And that's a good thing.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If god existed and his presence was evident in the world, then the more you learn the more you'd understand and accept him.

But they know that's bullshit so they go for this strategy instead.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is why they hate psychedelics with a passion. Psychadellics enable people to get in contact with god/the universe/ reality and have spiritual experiences in a non-instatutionalized way. Most religions make it very clear the only way you can for real get in contact with God is through the church and and the holy higher ups. Every unofficial way of connecting to god that doesn't involve the church is actually a trap invented by Satan to deceive. I refuse to tell Christians about my spiritual experiences that converted me from being an athiest anymore because they will literally tell me my experiences are 'wrong'.

[–] Im14abeer@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God loves the poorly educated! Where have I heard that before?

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

GOP party slogan.

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

[–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

“Become a Christian! Become a moron!” Is an interesting recruitment route to go down.