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[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 54 points 9 months ago

Festool is not on this list because Festool owners NEVER GET ANYONE PREGNANT.

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 31 points 9 months ago

Because you have to choose: children or Festool. Only the few elite can have both.

[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

If I had enough money for Festool stuff I would probably just pay someone else to do the job instead!

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

Can confirm, had a vasectomy years ago.

Love the very, very few Festools that I have. But the price is painful.

[-] bluetardis@sh.itjust.works 36 points 9 months ago

You need to know that most power tools are ultimately owned by only a few brands

Milwaukee and Ryobi for example are both owned by TTI but the Marketing is strong.

https://www.protoolreviews.com/power-tool-manufacturers-who-owns-them/

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago

Its also worth mentioning that adapters are available to convert between battery systems. If you're on Milwaukee and want to buy a DeWalt palm router (which is superior IMO) then you can just get a converter to use it with a Milwaukee battery. You can keep the converter in the tool itself, and most tools don't mind this.

The exception is Ryobi. Converters only exist one-way, since Ryobi still uses "stick" type batteries for low voltage stuff. The opposite converter could theoretically exist (say, to use a Ryobi battery with a DeWalt router) but it would be very large and bulky and so nobody really makes them.

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[-] JPJones@startrek.website 3 points 9 months ago

Heck yeah! Makita is just Makita!

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[-] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 36 points 9 months ago

I dropped my locking, variable speed, single direction, corded drill with the chuck key electrical taped to the cracked plastic cord on a board and the hole I needed formed naturally out of fear.

[-] SadSadSatellite@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 9 months ago

House DeWalt: The Builders

House Ryobi: The Slapjobs

House Milwaukee: The wishes they were house DeWalt

House Makita: Quality prevails regardless of how little I use my tools.

Unmentioned:

House Bosch: House Makita but doesn't like Asians

House Metabo: House Milwaukee but green

House Rigid: wow these are fuckin cheap

House Worx: Tools take a backseat to Yardwork

House Metabo HPT: My wife says they're great

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

Rigid are mostly Milwaukee tools but cheaper.

[-] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

House Bauer/Atlas/Hercules/Warrior: Life is transient, why does your tool or battery need to last longer than the job?

[-] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 3 points 9 months ago

House Harbor Freight: Safety squints aren't enough danger

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[-] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 33 points 9 months ago
[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

Can't, sold my kidneys to afford these and I'm too sore.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 28 points 9 months ago

Quality-wise, Makita > DeWALT ≥ Milwaukee > Ryobi, at least, if you watch teardowns by guys like AvE.

Power tools are like cars; companies hold several brands and target them to different market segments, like Porsche and VW.

Ryobi is owned by the same company as Milwauki; it's the budget line, Milwauki being their premium line.

DeWALT and Black & Decker are owned by the same company; DeWALT is their premium line.

The exception in this list is Makita, which is its own company. They're also objectively more well-built than the others (here), and correspondingly usually more expensive.

The premium lines are better quality (not just more expensive) but also tend to have smaller battery-tool options. Despite being a budget line, I mostly own B&D because most of my tools these days are 24V and there are more tool options there. The few, select, DeWALT tools I have are noticably better quality.

I don't use power tools enough to justify Makita, but also, their battery-powered line is comparatively tiny. As someone else said, there's a lot of motivation to pick a (compatible) lane, whichever it is. For most home-gamers, the quality difference will probably not matter much. If I were made of money, though, I'd have everything Makita except for the things they don't make.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

Ryobi is a distant fourth tbh. It's basically harbor freight tools but, Home depot.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, this is like a game of, "one of these things is not like the other." Ryobi is not in the same league as the others.

[-] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

It drives me nuts that Milwaukee used to be the best line about 10 years ago. They sold out their good name and started selling shitty tools after I bought into their battery system. Grrr.

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[-] rekabis@lemmy.ca 24 points 9 months ago

I’m in that fifth house that no-one ever seems to talk about: BOSCH.

J/K, I’m mostly Bosch, but I look towards whichever manufacturer makes the best version of a tool I currently need. For example, my chainsaws and yard/orchard power tools are Stihl, my lawnmower is Husqvarna, my circular saw, worm drive saw and abrasion/steel cutoff saw are all Skilsaw (not Skil!), and my oscillating multi tool is Fein.

Plus, many of the domestics are vintage, from before production was outsourced out of America, which makes them much more reliable and robust than modern tools. Even some of the other tools are vintage -- my Stihl 076 Super can cut through a 60cm log like a hot knife through butter. And I have both 36″ and 72″ bars to go with it.

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[-] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 9 months ago

We are a cheap garbage household 💪💪💪💪💪

[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 22 points 9 months ago

Straight up Ryobi here. It's not pro-hardcore, but for homeowner DYI and the variety and range of devices, it's been solid.

Pretty funny how Home Depot has stayed neutral and carried all those brands.

[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 22 points 9 months ago

20v to house DeWalt!

[-] TalesFromTheKitchen@lemmy.ml 20 points 9 months ago

Not a dad but heavily into the Makita gang. As a German I should be into Hilti or Metabo but Makita just hits the sweetspot of quality and pricing for me.

[-] WbrJr@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

You forgot Bosch! It's a shit company in my opinion though.. they also produce in Chinese prison camps

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 16 points 9 months ago

Which ne is the Harbor Freight's Warrior & Hecules house?

[-] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

GryffinDeWalt
Milwauflepuff
Ravenkita
SlytheRyobi

[-] L0rd0fD3rp@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago

Went looking for my Craftsman brothers, but I’m afraid I may stand alone.

[-] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 5 points 9 months ago

IIRC, that might be because their quality & reputation took a dip for a while. They were, after all, a Sears brand, and Sears got run into the ground by some blood-sucking leadership.

That said, they used to have a great reputation, and were sold to Black & Decker in 2017, who seem to be handling the line up much, much better.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Most of my SB&D Craftsmam stuff is ptetty good.

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[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 12 points 9 months ago
[-] Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago

But im a craftsman....

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

While I do have a couple of DeWalt drills, I've been a member of the House of Ryobi for 20+ years. Ryobi was the first to really push the idea of "one battery fits all" ecosystem with their 18V ONE batteries.

My Wife bought me a tool set for Christmas one year and I have never looked back. 20 years later I'm still using those tools and Ryobi still supports them. A new Lithium battery battery still works in my old tools. The "pro tools" do not take that track.

[-] SadSadSatellite@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 months ago

As a Semi pro, I run Metabo HPT for power tools and beat the hell out of them and get free batteries. Never had a tool or battery die in several years.

For groundskeeping I go with worx. They're great but aftermarket batteries suck ass.

Any plug in tools that aren't antiques are rigid, their warranty is nuts, and their mitre saw has the widest range of any I've ever used. Plus free service and parts for life.

My coworker runs Milwaukee, lots of variety, but he's had two drills and three batteries die in 3 years of basic use, so I'm not sure if I trust them wholly. The packout is nice, but there are better options out there for portable tool chests now, like flex and toughbuilt.

I know a few pros who switched to flex tools and swear by them, but they're too fresh to market to know for sure, although the company has been around forever supposedly.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah same company that makes Flex also make Kobalt as their Ryobi competitor for Lowe's, and Ridgid as their mid tier tools.

[-] tim-clark@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

Makita still going strong after 15yrs of use. They were the best at the time and still works amazing today with backwards compatibility batteries. My 15yrs old driver can use a brand new battery that a 2023 model uses.

Drill a 1/2" hole through 4" thick stainless without a hiccup on a single battery. Then tap the hole on the same battery. Impressive power and reliable

[-] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

4 inch thick stainless steel? What in tarnation is that for?

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[-] Hux@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

My tools?

Wired: DeWalt

Battery: Makita

Pneumatic: Bosch

Hand: whatever’s in the box…

[-] BingoBangoBongo@midwest.social 7 points 9 months ago

If we're gonna talk about tools, I gotta shout out porter cable for making an absolute tank of a circular saw. Finally went cordless Bosch, but that porter cable has a good 20 years or so of heavy use and it's still kicking.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 6 points 9 months ago

Where is the power fist / what ever is cheapest?

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There used to be a great fifth house of Craftsman...

And let's not even talk about Snap-on, Northern, or AmazonBasics

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

Worx life!

Get a landroid!

[-] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 4 points 9 months ago

I got three of the four, just one more power tool set and I'll be sweet lol

[-] littlecolt@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

How dare they ignore the fifth and oldest house, House Craftsman

[-] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It is whatever you buy a battery and charger for first. Then you are unwilling to forfeit that battery to just buy another tool. So you get another tool of the same brand, even if you aren't happy with the previous. Then at that point, you've gone to far. You've got several hundred dollars in batteries you would have to give up just to switch. It is the most blatant example of the sunken cost fallacy.

Ryobi, specifically has entry level tools (a basic drill) that come with a charger and battery for cheaper than you can even buy a battery by itself. When you're young and broke and all you need to do is hang some curtains or something you get it. But really, it is just a seed for your future "house" that you belong to.

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[-] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Me with my Ryobi miter saw, Milwaukee toolkit, Black & Decker powerdrill, and Mastercraft oscillating saw like i'm collecting infinity stones

[-] sleepdrifter@startrek.website 2 points 9 months ago

I'm scared to mention Kobalt in here

[-] supermario182@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

So DeWalt is Gryffindor right?

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