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[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 61 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

This is actually fucking scary.

They also took issue with him being brought back to life as he’d signed a β€˜Do Not Resuscitate’ order years earlier, The Des Moines Register reported at the time.

This sets the precedent that the convict is no longer in possession of their own body and life.

"Death is no escape. You will suffer as long as we want you to."

Welcome to the birth of Hell.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

~~I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that is something signed by choice, saying that the prisoner doesn’t want to be resuscitated if they die. I don’t think that is forced on them, but again, I could be wrong.~~

edit: nvm, I get what you’re saying now

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Well

Benjamin Schreiber was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison in 1996, after clubbing a man to death with the handle of a pickaxe and leaving his body outside a trailer. Schreiber had conspired with the man’s girlfriend to murder him.

I'd be more scared with him free

[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

People have tried the argument when they were resuscitated. The courts have thrown it out, as the sentence is meant to be their entire lifetime regardless of medical interventions that may artificially extend it. If someone is capable of making the argument, they have not fulfilled their sentence. Also, I think generally if you can be brought back you were not actually dead, you were near death and would have died if not for intervention (one might say only mostly dead and not dead dead).

It would take very poorly written laws that somehow define life to only include a single period of an uninterrupted heartbeat to allow it to work.

If and when somebody is resurrected after three days, the courts might be forced to reconsider.

[–] indepndnt@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

only mostly dead and not dead dead

Nice reference, bro. That was the second movie I ever bought, on VHS.

[–] racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Well said. If we ever have the medical advancement of bringing back three-day corpses, we can brainwash the criminals to be good people instead.

[–] Critical_Insight@feddit.uk 28 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think there are few historical examples where someone was hanged and pronounced dead but then woke up and were pardoned.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago

There is one from Edinburgh, A woman who was hung but survived.

Half-Hangit’ Maggie

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

That's tragic and really weird

[–] Aradia@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

But we are talking about sentenced to prison, not sentenced to death.

[–] 0000000nowhere@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No offense, but I feel like a lot of posts on c/asklemmy would be better suited to c/nostupidquestions

[–] Sensitivezombie@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

And many other niche communities

[–] wantd2B1ofthestrokes@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is what Jon Snow did. Obviously real life works the same way

[–] MisterChief@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And now my watch has ended.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 3 points 10 months ago

You finished watching GOT just now?

[–] Aradia@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago

"life sentence in prison" means he is sentenced for life, so if he gets alive again he would be still with that sentence that is for life. It's not a "sentence until death".

[–] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that the law is ready to deal with zombies and other non realistic scenario

[–] BillyTheSkidMark@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

I mean... You can be clinically dead and then revived with cpr and a defibrillator, so not entirely unrealistic.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think so. I read about a guy who stayed dead for couple of years for tax reasons.

(If you get the reference you'll get a high five)

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hey I knew that guy. Used to hang out with Zaphod.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 5 points 10 months ago
[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If he dies for long enough to complete all the paper work and produce death certeficate then he would be free

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

Unfortunately the person would not have any papers after, and trying to get papers may send them back to prison

no. they arent legally dead until they are

[–] SonicBlue03@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

I believe they come back to "life in prison" .

[–] ColonelSanders@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not sure how it is in other countries, but I always assumed that a "life" sentence at least in the US just meant anything over 25 years

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think in USA life sentence means until death πŸ€·πŸ»β€β™€οΈ

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Not in every state, and many get life sentence with parole chance after X years.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 1 points 10 months ago

In civilised counties it means indefinite, 20 years minimum and after that reviewed every couple of years. In some countries 25 years is the maximum mandatory sentence you can get, the next level is life.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago
[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

At least in Canada a "life" sentence is just a really long amount of time. I think 21 years?

EDIT: Looked into it. It's indefinite, only getting a chance to appeal after 25 years.