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That will menaker guy sounds smart, i wonder if there is a site to talk about his podcast will-fancy

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[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 64 points 10 months ago

Post-left watch posting yet another chapo W.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 63 points 10 months ago

Shitlibs be like "Will MenaKKKer"

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 55 points 10 months ago

They're posting this because they want to share this insight because its obviously true, right? anakin-padme-2

They know its true, right? anakin-padme-4

[-] Snackuleata@hexbear.net 52 points 10 months ago

Remember all the smugness about how people in red states "had [bad thing] coming"? You think they wouldn't treat Muslims the same way?

[-] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 40 points 10 months ago

This fucking shit, what even is democracy then?

Vote for our guy, or you will die! He would rather watch you be deported or killed than cede a single fucking inch on anything that matters to you, but if you don't fully surrender your political voice to him an even worse guy will come and punish you, and you'll deserve it. If you try to hold our guy to account in any way, even just rhetorically, you're a traitor.

maybe-later-honey speech-l

How is this different in any way to liberals' wild fantasies of the "authoritarian totalitarian communist dictatorship"? They'll never explain because they're physically incapable of processing this framing.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

It's different because you can vote, sweaty.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh god, they're gonna smugly invoke that beaten-into-the-ground redditism about faces and Leopards, and in that moment my sanity will snap like a twig

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 52 points 10 months ago

I think after the polling came out that Biden lost the Muslim vote, and to them that automatically means Muslims support Trump for some reason, it’s definitely their subconscious desire.

They don’t like Trump, but they still want minorities who are disillusioned to ‘get what they voted for’ for not choosing Biden.

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And if that means they get deported 🤷 win stupid prizes. I voted for Konos.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago

American Muslims used to be one of the most solidly Republican voting demographics. I'm not sure of the exact reason why.

But that entirely flipped after 9/11 and now the Democrats can't help themselves either with how much they hate Palestinians.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago

American Cold War policies towards the ME was pushing for Islamist theocracies as a bulwark against evil Bolshevik atheism. So nominally, the US had to be friendly towards Arabs, though Israel was constantly throwing a wrench in those plans.

Perhaps these nominally friendly relationships resulted in American Muslims being pro republican? I know that Carter, a democrat, started the Middle East policies, but I don’t remember if it was known publicly during his time.

It’s also possible that it’s more general. Conservatives took a hard line stance against anything left of their hand, which means they were constantly portraying democrats as godless hippies who wanted to destroy the family and god.

[-] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 47 points 10 months ago

That will menaker guy sounds smart, i wonder if there is a site to talk about his podcast will-fancy

Oh, he has a podcast?

[-] CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago

He probably appeared on citations-needed or :blowback: at some point.

[-] crispy_lol@hexbear.net 44 points 10 months ago

I’m in a weird mood where I’m feeling weirdly empathetic to the post left guy. Like, clips from CTH will genuinely sound absurd to libs. Part of being a lib is a deep deep brainwashing that left of liberal isn’t a real political stance. And with that, it’s absurd to think they have racist/islamophobic issues to deal with within THEIR party. I hope this guy can become post post left (aka, left)

[-] axont@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago

Part of being a liberal is believing there's only two sides to humanity: the nice liberal side and this uncompromising, undefeatable vague blob of bad stuff that will always exist. You can't reason with it, at best you can force it to hold exactly half the power. Leftists don't make sense to them because we can sound simultaneously like liberals and adherents of the evil blob, sometimes in the same sentence.

I don't know how to handle anti-left liberals anymore. I wish they would just be more honest and say they want imperialist bourgeois power structures in power, but they never phrase it like that unless they're a self-identified neoliberal. And those people are too much of cranks to bother with.

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

they don't know what the terms imperialist, bourgeois, or power structures mean so it's kind of an uphill climb.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 42 points 10 months ago

Anyone have the 🖤 🐺 feed?

[-] The_Grinch@hexbear.net 41 points 10 months ago

This is coming hot out of Thanksgiving where many of the people seeing this post probably heard their families expressing this exact view

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I've never heard of Post-Left Watch but I gathered from their Twitter that they aren't being ironic.

Are they just libs who think they're Leftists or Right-wingers?

[-] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The "Post left" is a whole thing. This person has gotten obsessed with the word and has misapplied the label to everyone they don't like. They genuinely appear to think they're on the left and exposing people.

[-] yoink@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago

i agree, if only there was a site to Chat about Chapo...

[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

imagine thinking that the democrats who don't do anything about the camps near the mexican border wouldn't deport muslims if they have the chance

[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago

i feel as though something is bappin

[-] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

Why is Twitter so broken i can no longer see comments? Just the fucking post.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

yea I have to use nitter to see anything it sucks I can't wait until the site formerly known as twitter finally dies

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Where's the lie, am I blind

[-] SkibidiToiletFanAcct@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

in my understanding, the word "post-left" usually refers to a type of anti-communist who thinks the path to revolution is everyone following them to get hired as a post-doc teaching about some niche dead end which "marx failed to consider".

[-] saladpresser@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago

Post-left is what libertarians call themselves now.

Post left anarchism was originally a critique of the tendency for leftists to bury themselves in academia actually.

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
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