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I was curious about domains and looked for something. The domain was available, but it cost over $1,000,000

What would happen if I clicked "add to cart" and tried to buy it if...

  • I couldn't afford it
  • I could afford it

Does someone reach out since it's a big sale? How do they confirm I have the money? Who does the money go to?

Assuming I don't have the money, at what point would I get blocked? I assume they don't just process giant purchases the same way as $10 ones

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A human would get involved to verify the sale, but definitely before transferring the domain.

Many of the domain auction sites don't actually own the domain, someone has told them they have the domain, so there will be some manual alert and then transfer if its actually still available.

[–] Dmian@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (6 children)

A human would get involved to verify the sale

And probably, more than one. When you start moving large amounts of money, a lot of people start paying attention: banks want to know why you’re taking that money away from their institution, tax agencies want to know if you’re paying the taxes you’re supposed to, and security agencies want to know if everything is legal and you’re not involved in something fishy.

So, if you actually have the money and the transaction is not immediately rejected as an error, you are probably going to be asked a few questions. Unless you’re someone who regularly deals in such things. Bank have ways to detect unusual types of transactions from an account.

If you don’t have the money, it’ll probably just be classified as an error.

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I moved 12,000,000 million and most of those questions don't get asked. The banks just put the transfers thru and tax agencies just find out when you file at the end of the year.

That doesn't mean i moved those kinds of sums without oversight. My lawyer and the other parties lawyers were involved and moneys were tracked accurately and documented.

If it is a personal transaction, good chance The bank manager will likely see it comes across their desk and additional verifications may be checked but little is done other than that.

If the transactions are international, that is when some of those oversights happen. Mostly just security checks.

[–] Dmian@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I’m pretty sure different countries or regions may have different mechanisms. I’m still amazed at the ability yo move large amounts inside the US, as you have states that almost qualify as tax havens. Guess the US government is not concerned. I still find it interesting.

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[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Looks like nobody pointed out the obvious here:

Domains cost around 10-20$€£ per year. That amount is rent, paid to the registrar.

If you find a domain that costs more than that, then you are not dealing with a registrar. You are dealing with a domain squatter that owns the usage rights to that domain name, and the price is what they demand to transfer that right to you.

If you're stupid enough to pay that, you'll still need to pay the actual fee to the registrar when the next billing period starts.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So 1.000.000 dollars plus 10-20 per year.

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Often Times even more, depending on the domain "extension".

[–] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago

Domain extension as in .com, .net, etc? The official name for that is a TLD.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

you can afford it.

The money is transferred to the registrar and you get to use the domain.

you can't afford it.

The transaction fails as some point. The money is not transferred, you don't get to use the domain.

[–] tonyn@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

You would need to pay the million to the current owner of the domain (the squatter), not the registrar. The owner of the domain would transfer ownership to you and then you would pay the registrar $10-$20 per year.

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's sad to see how mere bytes can cost over 1 million.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's the rule of scarcity. Same reason why some ground can cost a lot.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

You've both just reminded me of the million dollar homepage. Essentially the synthesis of the two.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If you have the money you probably need to transfer the money to an escrow account. Even if you are loaded you probably wouldn’t have a credit card with a million dollar limit.

The escrow agent calls the other party to tell them that the money is on the account. The domain holder transfer the domain rights to you then you call the agent to tell them that the deal has been concluded and they will send the money to the seller.

If you lie that you didn’t receive the domain rights you won’t get the money back since both parties tell a difference story. The money stays on the escrow account and the case will go to court or into arbitration.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fabulously wealthy people have no limit credit cards, not unlike my hold em games.

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No. Actually they don't. Nor would they use a credit card to make these kinds of transactions because the fees are too high to the buyer. Or more correct, the buyer would tack on a surcharge to use a credit card. Might use a credit card to put down a deposit but that is about it.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 0 points 11 months ago

Yeah, actually they do. I've been working for a wealth management bank in Luxembourg for several years, and we do have unlimited credit cards. Technically they have a 999,999,999 EUR limit since there needs to be something, but good luck spending this much anyway.

Also, credit card fees outside of the US are rather tame in comparison, and usually even capped. I've seen someone buy a Bentley worth >1M with his Visa.

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[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

I have procured expensive machines that cost millions of dollars before. For stuff above a certain amount, you have to buy it the old fashioned way via quotation, invoice and purchase order.

[–] digger@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do it! What do you need, like $30,000-35,000 from each of us? Let's get this bread!

[–] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Do it! What do you need, like $30,000-35,000 from each of us? Let’s get this bread!

Then let's turn around and sell it for $2M!

[–] atocci@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

New infinite money glitch just dropped

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

The seller has decided the domain costs $1m. It's unlikely any "cart" they've set that up with would allow such a transaction. It'll be some kind of bank to bank transfer that is needed with various fraud checks.

Also as with most expensive purchases, the list price is total bullshit. When you see expensive price tags, the final price will be less unless demand is high.

When you see expensive apartments or properties up for $1m the selling price is likely to be less unless there is a lot of competition. In property hotspots it is getting normal to pay the full price but in all areas the prices are inflated deliberately to see what the seller can get away with. The actual price is what someone is willing to pay. People aren't fools - they negotiate.

If you'll haggle over a $10k car then of course you'd haggle over a $1m domain. (And if you're not haggling the price down on a $10k car then you're an idiot and wasting money)

A $1m domain - it might sell for $900k or $100k or never sell as it's actually worthless.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

If you click add to cart, then purchase, but you only have $5 in your bank account, then your bank account will be overdrawn $999,995 and congratulations, you're the broke-ass new owner of a million dollar domain, now you better pick up some side hustles to dig yourself out of crippling debt.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Is there any bank in the world that is stupid enough to allow someone to overdraw their account by $1M without prior arrangement?

[–] doctorn@r.nf 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I would like to know this too...

...for a friend... 😅

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes...I have some purchases I would like to make.

I am definitely good to pay you back and will not declare bankruptcy. Promise.

[–] doctorn@r.nf 3 points 11 months ago

"I left my wallet at home." 😅

[–] Virkkunen@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Every time I hear about banks allowing overdraws, it's from Americans. If true, then it's yet another thing that America do to fuck it's citizens and that the rest of the world has already figured it out.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Yep. I don't think overdrawing accounts has been possible in my country (Aus) for at least 30 years.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's not how it works at all.

There's a hold period where validation happens.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

After they validate that you are real and only have $5, you'll be over drafted and own the website.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

It's the overdraft fees that really getcha.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago

A domain registrar rents domains to individuals (including companies as individuals). At least for the common standard registrars/top-level-domains the rented domain is owned with a guarantee of being able to extend it.

Like with any possession, how it is sold depends the owner.

Where did you find it and where would you "press add to cart"? If it's a trustworthy platform, the following process depends on them, but for such a high cost I would expect a manual contracted process instead of an automated one.

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Please try and report back. We all want to know. We'll be waiting right here

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago
[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Can you tell us the domain? Curious which domain is so desirable that it's listed for $1M but no one is using it

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

I'll have to find it again, but some generic variation of open____.org

[–] Jesusaurus@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago
[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

My best guess is that you'd be a million poorer and not a domain richer

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