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[–] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 66 points 11 months ago (1 children)

not even russia should be russian

[–] Public_Tumbleweed@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

True, Russia should be Albanian

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

Give it back to the Swedes.

[–] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Russia wants to have regions that are developed and have a friendly open society, so they can apply their russian system there, grind it down with their corruption and make it look like Norilsk, where pollution is killing their citizens. They can not create. Only destroy. They have no working system for society or regulations. It is orc behavior.

[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Stop dehumanising hundreds of millions of people that brought us cultural and scientific advancements over the past centruies, forever enriching the human civilization.

Yes, currently Russia is a corrupt shithole on it's way to conquer Ukraine (which is, thankfuly, failing to do), but that does not make people living there "orcs". This kind of hate speach leads to severe dehumanisstion and eventual ethnic violence against the targeted group.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I didn't see any mention of Russian people in their comment other than referring to them being victims of bad policy. It's all clearly targeted at the Russian leadership/government.

[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

They can not create. Only destroy. They have no working system for society or regulations. It is orc behavior.

Please...

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You can stop conflating Russia with the USSR at any time. It's a false comparison.

[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I am not. Even the idiotic Russian Empire produced scientific and cultural progress.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

True, but it has always been a part of the Russian mind set that they are a master race and have a full right to veto their neighbors sovereignty, by force if necessary. Although saying this we must remember that not all who live inside Russian borders truly consider themselves Russian. It's a big country with a large ammount of different ethnicities. Many that are treated like second rate citizens or even subhumans. There are "Russians" and then there are Russians. In this case I'd take the innocence of the common man with a grain of salt.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 25 points 11 months ago

That's an... interesting opinion.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This reminds me that in 1999 Putin promised that the Russian GDP per capita would be the same as Portugal's by 2020. How's that going?

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ah, that's they want to annex Portugal, so they can bring their GDP down to Russia's levels and fulfill that promise.

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 11 months ago

I guess Portugal is in Eastern Europe after all

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is silly, weak propaganda, but the EU + NATO would completely end Russia (& Belarus for good measure) if they ever did something so suicidal.

[–] nixcamic@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Honestly after seeing them struggle to project force into Ukraine, a country they border, I think Portugal could probably just handle any Russian invasion on their own.

There's no way that would end up happening, they would meet the full EU + NATO force, but it's funny to think about.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Personally, I'm glad that he has calibrated his bullshit so that not a single thinking person on this planet can possibly think that he's talking sense. Previously he has been saying things that are absurd but which can be thought of having some historical basis, at least in an academic sense. But Lisbon? No sense at all.

[–] P1r4nha@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lol, if it's hard to convince ex-soviet nations how hard is it going to be to get Western europe to be Russians. It's pure, delusional propaganda. The guy probably couldn't look at himself in the mirror that day.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The guy probably doesn’t even know where Lisbon is.

Edit: Hey, let’s give them Lisbon, Fl, or maybe…. One of the two in Wi… (in the US,)

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They already have some parts of Florida.