Bethesda also released a game where you get minus to intelligence, willpower and personality for being a black man.
But they were better at stabbing people
What game is this? It sounds so messed up.
I don’t know if it’s the same stat buffs/debuffs across all the Elder Scrolls games, but the one OP was likely talking about was the Redguard race in Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (stat sheet here). And yes, it was pretty messed up.
But Nords have identical buffs/debuffs according to that sheet.
The males, yes. Redguard women are subbier, more dazzling, and have more stamina than Nord women. Good base race for a skill over brawn fighter, see Syrio Forel, no points wasted on pointless magic capabilities. Also fun side observation: Female orcs are just as strong as the males but smarter and have, singular among all races, less charisma than the males. Also the lowest overall.
You kinda have to try hard to be offended by the thing. I guess though the differences between human races shouldn't be as pronounced (modulo Bretons with all their Aldmer blood) but I guess every race needs its 50 stat. Oh and imperials being the smarmy ones makes sense.
Oh, it gets better.
They're not the same species as the Nordic humans.
The "whites" in this game are the imperial, nordic have the same debuffs in willpower and intelligence.
Edit, with the exceptions of nordic women...
For some reason the race distinction doesn't bother me as much as the gender one. What the fuck
Yeah the sex ones are more odd... When you chose race and sex I think they don' give you the stats at all, they just mention in text what a race is better at. They don't mention there being gender differences or those differences differing between races at all.
I feel a bit cheated tbh
Redguards are from Yokuda, Nords are from Atmora, Imperials come from the Nedes and Bretons are a Nede/Aldmer mix. Each human race has a distinct origin, what's controversial about that? They're 'human' in the sense that they're not Mer or Beastfolk.
They don't come from the same gods because they're from a different Kalpa. Stop trying to create drama.
To be fair, most RPGs were quite racist until the 00s
Why are you lying? Bretons, Imperials and High Elves get a plus to magic abilities (Int, Wil), as befitting their lore of magic casters. Nords and Redguards get a plus to fighting abilities, as befitting their warrior origins.
There is more than one Elder Scrolls game... Morrowind has base attributes of 40 with different races having higher and lower values from base. Redguard in Morrowind have lower int and will than average, and compared to women male Redguard also have lower personality but higher strength.
tfw can't date the robots
What about Fisto
Well, butter my butt and call me a biscuit
🧈 🍑 Biscuit.
I can't feel my legs!
He dates you
Hence why the meme says bi and not pan
Kinda glosses over how these perks add a couple dozen extra dialogue options, many of which are unique ways to solve a problem.
Honestly my favorite type of rpg "perk", one that gives a slight gameplay boost but also affects the story and/or dialogue in a meaningful way.
Having 25% more "luck" is cool and all, but I'd choose a perk that gave me 5% more luck and more ways to solve problems any day of the week.
It's one of the reasons I loved Prey. It seemed like every perk you got added new ways to get around, dialogue, and/or new combat techniques.
Glad I'm not the only one who thought prey was good
The lack of praise that game got is practically criminal
I was so happy when I saw special dialogue options return in Starfield and so disappointed when I realized that they were pretty much pointless
Hey! Perks that actually (a) trigger when intended, and aren't bugged out (b) do something actually useful - are quite unusual in Fallout; there's plenty of them that are just a trap for the unwary to waste their slots on.
I'd also nominate the 'lady killer / cherchez la femme' perk as being one of those traps; the vast majority of the enemies you have to kill are male, and certainly all the ones who are difficult. It gives a few interesting dialogue options, but there's more effective perk choices.
The game's not so hard you'd need to sacrifice some interesting dialogue to get a more optimal build unless you really suck.
Then in the next one they force you into a cishet sob story about your kid.
How do you know they're cis
i just started a playthrough with both male/female seduction, checks out
I especially love the BLATEN RASICM perk being in the same dlc as Joshua Graham.
What is this referring to? I've played New Vegas and don't remember anything about bisexuals...
(this is an outsider's understanding; I have not played the game myself)
There are two perks you can get in the game: "Lady Killer", which grants a charisma buff (or something like that) when talking to female characters, and also allows you to do +10% damage to female characters. "Black Widow" grants the same charisma (or whatever) when talking to male characters, and the same +10% damage to male characters. It's possible to get both of these perks at the same time.
It is my understanding that the previous game, Fallout 3, prevented anything but heteronormative interactions ie to romance a female NPC the player had to choose a male character, etc. To quote hbomberguy, "It implies that Bethesda doesn't think gay people exist." By contrast, New Vegas allows any character to take either of the above perks, or both at the same time, allowing one to roleplay as a gay or bisexual character to an admittedly tiny degree.
Small addendum, it's not quite a Charisma buff. Instead, you sometimes get special dialogue related to your perks which looks like this:
[Confirmed Bachelor] "Why yes, I also like to play 'hide the snake'"
[Barter] "I'm not gay, but 20 caps is 20 caps"
"Sorry, not interested"
One of the companions has a super high science/medicine skill requirement or a quest before you can recruit him.
Unless you're gay, in which case you just flirt with him and he agrees to join you. It's pretty great.
I'm pretty sure he will also take pity on you if you have low intelligence.
And also, it's confirmed bachelor and lady killer for men interacting with other men and with women, and cherchez la femme and black widow for female PCs against women and men (respectively)
I'm pretty sure I had a female character that slept with female characters in the casino gang missions
I haven't played the game but still know what you're referring to because of Hbomberguy's long-ass video essay on it lol
this is also true in real life.
It's hard to not play a female in Skyrim, just cuz the Dibela buff you can get very early on.
