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[-] _danny@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

What game is this? It sounds so messed up.

[-] TheOgreChef@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

I don’t know if it’s the same stat buffs/debuffs across all the Elder Scrolls games, but the one OP was likely talking about was the Redguard race in Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (stat sheet here). And yes, it was pretty messed up.

[-] AccountMaker@slrpnk.net 12 points 10 months ago

But Nords have identical buffs/debuffs according to that sheet.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

The males, yes. Redguard women are subbier, more dazzling, and have more stamina than Nord women. Good base race for a skill over brawn fighter, see Syrio Forel, no points wasted on pointless magic capabilities. Also fun side observation: Female orcs are just as strong as the males but smarter and have, singular among all races, less charisma than the males. Also the lowest overall.

You kinda have to try hard to be offended by the thing. I guess though the differences between human races shouldn't be as pronounced (modulo Bretons with all their Aldmer blood) but I guess every race needs its 50 stat. Oh and imperials being the smarmy ones makes sense.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 10 months ago

Oh, it gets better.

They're not the same species as the Nordic humans.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The "whites" in this game are the imperial, nordic have the same debuffs in willpower and intelligence.

Edit, with the exceptions of nordic women...

For some reason the race distinction doesn't bother me as much as the gender one. What the fuck

[-] cro_magnon_gilf@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah the sex ones are more odd... When you chose race and sex I think they don' give you the stats at all, they just mention in text what a race is better at. They don't mention there being gender differences or those differences differing between races at all.

I feel a bit cheated tbh

[-] AccountMaker@slrpnk.net 13 points 10 months ago

Redguards are from Yokuda, Nords are from Atmora, Imperials come from the Nedes and Bretons are a Nede/Aldmer mix. Each human race has a distinct origin, what's controversial about that? They're 'human' in the sense that they're not Mer or Beastfolk.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe -1 points 10 months ago

Idk bro, you think that, maybe, in a creationist setting, that means the "races" don't have a common ancestor?

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

My brother, read the fucking lore. Atmorans (Nords) are the fallen gods who followed Shor. Elves are the fallen gods who followed Auri-El. Redguards come from a different Kalpa (rebirth cycle).

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Aka

Are a different species

Dumbass

But I'll give Bethesda credit, as others have noted the Nords have basically the same stats, so it's more a bad look/Romabooism than a white supremacy thing.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Aka Are a different species

A.K.A. a different race, as per Tolkienian storytelling and myth-building

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe -4 points 10 months ago

I'm not going to argue the semantics of racism and their historical contexts in regards to human speciation with a gamer in "Suck Off Bethesda And Admit No Flaws" mode.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Take it up with Tolkien and the entire genre he spawned, buddy.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe -2 points 10 months ago

I was wondering how much of a clown you'd have to be to compare the two settings for this discussion, is it a professional thing for you or are you a hobbyist?

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

They don't come from the same gods because they're from a different Kalpa. Stop trying to create drama.

[-] notonReddit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 10 months ago

Seems accurate enough

[-] WoodlandAlliance@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

To be fair, most RPGs were quite racist until the 00s

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