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[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 155 points 1 year ago

“Let’s nominate someone indicted for fraud. That doesn’t make me look suspicious at all.”

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago

Speaker would mean Trump having to "read" and "pay attention". No way he can do it.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Not to mention allow others to speak. Could you imagine Trump with the gavel allowing anyone else to talk? He'd open the session, begin a 2 hour gripe fest on whatever conspiracy theory he saw most recently, and then would gavel the House into recess to get McDonald's.

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[-] sanguine_artichoke@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He’d fulfill their primary goal, which is to make government a performative bullshit fest that accomplishes absolutely nothing other than distractions and propaganda.

[-] Jerkules_Jerkules@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

So their two best candidates are a, multiple court case proven conman, and the man who protected a high profile pedophile for years? The US is doing really well at the moment.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 56 points 1 year ago

Trump can't be Speaker for five reasons:

  1. Endangered Republicans from Biden districts won't vote for him, or they're doomed

  2. He has no understanding of House rules or procedures

  3. He's going to be spending most days in court, losing his businesses and facing felony jail time.

  4. Being speaker involves forming coalitions with other people

  5. Too much work

[-] I_Has_A_Hat@startrek.website 32 points 1 year ago

All of those are reasons he shouldn't be speaker. None of those are reasons he can't.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 14 points 1 year ago

The rules say a person under indictment can't be Speaker. How's that?

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

House Republicans have ignored their own rules as late as like, 2 weeks ago, or some shit when they just decided to imprach without a vote.

Rules smules.

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[-] FatLegTed@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago
  1. Not enough days off to play golf.
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[-] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Speakership is a real job, as in, it requires A LOT of work. You can't just give a press conference, watch yourself on TV, and sign executive orders.

With that in mind, I also support Trump for Speaker of the House. It'll be fucking hilarious at how ungodly terrible it will go. I give him 1 week before he makes up a story about how CIA DNC FBI deep state is trying to kill him, so he has to flee to Mara Lago.

[-] Kage520@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

If Trump gets speaker of the house some morons will try to assassinate the president and vice president to make him regain the presidency.

[-] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

You mean the same people who live streamed themselves storming the capital on January 6th?

Don't threaten me with a good time, because as funny as a Trump speakership would be, watching morbidly obese morons trying, and failing, to assassinate the President might even be funnier.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I dunno, a Castro fanboy made a damn good drive at it, and same with several other mentally ill people. I understand it is MUCH HARDER now, but do not discount some of these militia types and other far-right people - there's been plenty of groups that have tried to plan assassinations of political figures of one stripe or another for the last 30 years, and I'm sure it ramped up quite a bit when Biden won the election in 2020.

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[-] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago

I mean, being President should be a real job too, but that kind of ended in 2001 when we hired a moron. Obama would have done the job if the GOP had let him, instead of being so obsessed with his ethnicity.

[-] Bdtrngl@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Did we hire the moron or did the supreme court?

[-] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

Oooh good point. Supreme Court fucks the Public once again.

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[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Speaker of the House is 3rd in line to be President if the Pres and VP are KIA / MIA.

I absolutely believe MAGA (and likely backed by foreign intelligence) would make a play at assassinating the President if Trump was in a speaker role. They were looking to hang people on Jan 6th...

You also have to, like, be an elected official of the House, so this is mostly MTG saying bullshit to retain the spotlight or deflect from dumb shit that Trump did, like getting slammed with a gag order. (Edit: I guess you don't need to be in Congress. Go figure.)

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

You don't actually have to be a member of the House to be speaker. It can literally be anyone. It just never has been anyone else previously.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

All this says to me, is that they have a plan to kill Biden and Harris

Cause thats the only way Trump would accept Speaker position, since Speaker is second after Harris in Succession.

[-] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Yeah its pretty disturbing that they are even floating this idea, and its all to appease the insane conspiracy freaks

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[-] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am eager to see how all of this plays out.

We effectively have three parties now. There's the Democrats, the Republicans, and the MAGA extremists. The problem is that the MAGA extremists are simultaneously a much smaller group than either of the two major parties while also being juuuuuust large enough to make sure that neither one of the other two parties actually have a controlling majority.

Somewhat ironically, our system actually was designed to handle this. The entire system was designed so everybody involved would negotiate, compromise, and elect one speaker that everybody can at least agree with. Theoretically, we should be able to handle this without issue. The problem is that our system was barely able to handle a two-party system where both sides dig in their heels, double down, and view any concession at all as a "loss" rather than compromise and negotiate, because at least one side could use its majority to push something through one way or another.

But now we effectively have a three party system. Our system was not designed to handle a situation where three parties refuse to negotiate or compromise over virtually anything, but none have enough of a majority to push anything through. Especially when one of the three sides has openly stated their intent to just watch the whole thing burn.

One of three things is going to have to happen.

  1. The MAGA wing eventually backs down. IMO, doing this would effectively kill whatever influence they have even in their own party as backing down would make this entire ordeal a bigger waste of time than it already is. This would probably lead to the return of Kevin McCarthy as speaker with MTG's hand crammed right up his ass, but only this time even more emboldened as he would no longer have to worry about the deals he made to get the speaker's gavel in the first place.

  2. Moderate Republicans are going to have to work with Democrats to get Democrat support for a moderate Republican speaker. However, doing so is guaranteed to come with a whole new list of heavy concessions that would be all but politically suicidal for a Republican to accept. This would also make it nigh-impossible to govern as the Speaker would have the impossible task of balancing the wants of his own party with whatever deal he'd be forced to make with Democrats in order to get the position. (This idea would also be untenable to Democrats, as they'd have no power to enforce whatever agreement they would make once the new speaker is installed, and there would be nothing stopping a new speaker from just telling Democrats where they can shove their agreement.)

  3. Moderate Republicans double-down on their refusal to work with Democrats and instead begrudgingly accept a MAGA-endorsed candidate on MAGA terms just so someone gets the gavel. This would effectively put us right back where we started, with either Kevin McCarthy as speaker or someone worse than Kevin McCarthy, and just like he was, they'd have the Sword of MAGA swinging over their heads forcing him to do their bidding whether he wants to or not. This would significantly embolden the MAGA party, as they would be able to say "You will do what we say or we will oust you just like we did McCarthy". People like MTG would become exponentially more insufferable than they already are with that kind of power in their hands.

Get the popcorn ready. This is gonna be one hell of a ride.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

We need something akin to a "vote of no confidence" when Congress refuses to work.

You didn't pass a budget? Great, we get to elect new people who will.

There needs to be some sort of consequences for not governing.

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[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Is Putin her second choice?

[-] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 year ago

Considering he has his dick in all their asses, I think he's pushing #2.

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[-] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 33 points 1 year ago

These psychopaths want him as close to the top of the line of successions as possible.

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[-] FatLegTed@feddit.uk 31 points 1 year ago

House Speaker? Nobody else would get a word in. They'd have to listen to Trump's word salad all day.

[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

How many "would you just shut up man" would be said on a daily basis.

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[-] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They are going to try to make a chancellorship for Trump like they did to Hitler.

[-] Fridgeratr@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Gonna be hard to do that from prison

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

that's the hail mary play - he become speaker, incites enough stochastic terrorism that someone tries to kill biden and harris, then he can pardon himself from any irritating details like past crimes he's been convicted for.

it's absolutely bonkers, but why else would Mungery Howler Greed want to install him there? fucking nutbags

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago

How does this nitwit remember how to breathe?

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[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago

When is he supposed to have time for this between campaigning and being The Defendant?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I was saying that to my wife. How can he be Speaker and on trial at the same time? It's not like they can just put the trials aside.

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[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago

Every day this clown is in office is just adding to the embarrassment of the republikkkan party. I'd love to hear from a republican (non russian asset) hat legitimately supports her. When you find this guy, notify the FBI because they're a problem.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Lol if she thinks Trump is going to show up and do that job daily, I have stock in Trump NY real estate to sale her

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I’m so tired of this clown show where they actively support this criminal. A criminal who will pardon them for their as-yet-to-be-done crimes while shitting on them.

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[-] TwoGems@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Nutjob fascist backs fellow nut job fascist z z Z

[-] airehiso@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

It's baffling that the Speaker can be practically anyone, including non-members of what it represents.

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[-] paultimate14@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Wasn't this one of the plans floated back in early 2021 as a way to get Trump the presidency? Or maybe I'm confusing it with a plan to re-instate Trump if he were impeached?

The Speaker is 3rd in line for the presidency. Granted, it would still be incredibly difficult to get from there to the presidency, but I'm not accusing the MAGA crowd of having good ideas.

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