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I think as it grows, we'll see more and more of the same crowd, but the structure of Lemmy will help the culture feel different.

Nobody can own Lemmy, by design. (Even the creators just have the .ml instance)

No ads, and no corporate pressures to be advertiser friendly.

No weird profit-driven decisions.

[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago

Well, an instance could decide they wanted to try to make money, but I think everyone would just bail on them. People are more than happy to help out servers with donations, no need to make it a business venture.

[-] joenforcer@midwest.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think so. There are very few communities that actually successfully fully left reddit. A good number of them splintered across circlejerkers on multiple lemmy instances with the users remaining on reddit asking "what's a lemmy" and staying put. The vast majority never left reddit at all, and don't give a fuck that reddit is trying to build a business.

Where the lemmy hivemind fails is that a bunch of us are reddit refugees that lost our favorite mobile apps, so you get a bunch of delusional people here thinking that reddit is dead and lemmy is the best thing ever. It's not. Lemmy has a lot of the same problems reddit had, and we're just repeating history. Wait until you need to squash extremism, prevent illegal content, and people maintaining the main instance (don't kid yourself, it's lemmy.world) need to eat.

[-] Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

For me, that's not the case. I enjoyed the amount of content and discussion, but I just lost interest in reddit over time.

I saw the same jokes too often. I got sick of seeing the ads. The admins perma-banned my fiancee's account, despite her never really commenting or posting. They never gave a reason for banning her, other than going against "policy", which they never specified when asked. It would be the equivilant of being banned from every single instance. Some of the "helpful" communities were becoming much more toxic over time. I stayed despite that stuff.

Then, the API thing happened. It wasn't that reddit wanted to profit, but rather how they went about it. Had they been honest with the developers when they asked at the start of the contract year, it would have been much smoother. You can't change the cost of a yearly subscription halfway through the year. I disliked the provable false rumors that were spread about developers.

I disliked that Spez heavily implied that people leaving reddit would harm reddit employees. He didn't make that statement about someone who made those threats, but instead he made it about the people leaving. It left a very bad taste in my mouth. I'm not monetarily supporting someone like that if I have any say in the matter.

I disliked the sudden overwhelming toxicity that I saw start against people who were recommending Lemmy. I get being rude to people who are rude, but it's lame to be rude just because. Someone told me that I would be back, that I should just wait to see them right. That person helped me stay off reddit, tbh.

I don't understand fanaticism, regardless of the company/platform/group, etc. If I start to dislike a social media, I will move somewhere that I like better. If Lemmy becomes like what Reddit is today, I'll leave Lemmy too. There's always something else. I also don't really care if Reddit sinks or swims. That has nothing to do with me. If I get sick of all social media, I won't use it. There are lots of other things to do with free time.

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[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

The scenario of companies opting to host instances may happen, just to try to jump into the bandwagon, which could imply they could/would at some point start to run ads but I'd risk the instance would quickly be defederated and/or turned into a hell pit.

But the notion of seeing an instance being run by GOG, Valve/Steam (not a client or fan but I aknowledge they have put a lot of work towards Linux and gained a lot of support because of it), AMD (fanboy here, give me a pass), RPi (I am aware of the shady turn they have undergone) and other companies that have some degree of respect in the Fediverse could be interesting.

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, but CAPITALISM!!!

Well except for apps like Boost which are proprietary and has ads.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 1 year ago

They took way too long to come to town, and now they have and it has ads, I don't even want it, since Liftoff has pretty much the same UI and without ads.

[-] nosurprises@lemm.ee 70 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is a reddit clone with users from reddit. It's not a bug, it's a feature.

[-] LtLiana@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago

It wasn't this way before. Lemmy had existed for years before Eternal September.

[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Ok but how do we set ourselves apart? Almost every new community is just reddit clone. There isn't innovation. We are better and smarter and more dedicated, but we are just putting up with being decentralized reddit.

[-] LtLiana@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

This blog post makes a point about how the strength of the Fediverse is that things can be decentralized into topic-specific instances instead of general use communities.

I am on StarTrek.Website. We only host Star Trek communities. It is much nicer there than on Lemmy.World.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Just about anywhere is better than Lemmy.world though.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I never really found it that different. Just less populated.

Same format. Similar groups. Similar users (though mostly the sane ones, but I attribute this more to the less populated part more than anything). Similar if not the exact same content.

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

less populated

This is the part I feel.

[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Fuck. You're my favorite user 😰 we can't be letting you down!

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[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago

Can't wait for the comment section to be spammed witht he same three reddit catchphrases

[-] Vej@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago
[-] McBain@feddit.ch 21 points 1 year ago

Here, have a poor man's gold 🥇

[-] Vej@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

"take my upvote"

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you, kind stranger!

[-] Shayeta@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

For your edification and posterity. This. What you just wrote. I totally agree. Like a chef serving a bowl of stew, you stuck your ladel into my brain and from my incoherent abstract thoughts were able to form the exact sentiment of what it is I was feeling. Down to a decimal of a decimal, more perfectly than I ever could have iterated, you captured the essence of every nuance I experienced relating to the subject matter. No words could portray the awe I felt knowing that somebody shared the exact same thought process as me. Not only that, but with the ability to articulate in such a refined manner the depth of said thought process. No words could describe that feeling. Except one. This.

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[-] YourFavouriteNPC@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Beat me to it

[-] Texas_Hangover@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago

Oh god am i glad. The amount of tankies is insane. Can't wait for more middle and left leaning people to join.

[-] Spaceinv8er@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

Right like holy shit! I never even knew what the term tankie was till I came to Lemmy.

It's like some people here want Stalin back in power, but for the whole world.

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

Yep. And everyone disagreeing obviously is just a nazi or doesn't know history

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some apps let you block instances. Lock out Lemmygrad and Hexbear and you don't see that many tankie takes unless you go looking.

[-] realitista@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I think there's a few of them but they are highly vocal and unhinged. I only had to block 2 of them, and things seem pretty okay right now.

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[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Seriously block that fucking instance. I havent seen any tankies since the drama blew up.

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[-] eumesmo@lemmings.world 18 points 1 year ago

At one hand, I like lemmy for being smaller and cozier, but on the other, the possibility of reddit becoming unprofitable due to lost users is so awesome to be missed.

COME ON REDDITORS, JOIN LEMMY AND LET REDDIT ROT!

[-] explodicle@local106.com 16 points 1 year ago

ITT: "My problem with this platform where nobody is in charge is that it has more extremists than the platform where a for-profit corporation is in charge."

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Freedom of speech allows for freedom for everybody to speak for better or worse. This is an essential human right and should not be suppressed unless it harms one another.

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

It's different in the ways that matter.

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

I wish I had the resources to open and maintain instances. There's a few topics I followed on Reddit that I haven't really found an alternative for.

[-] Gamey@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

It's actually not that expensive but moderating that shit is horrible!

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