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I think as it grows, we'll see more and more of the same crowd, but the structure of Lemmy will help the culture feel different.

Nobody can own Lemmy, by design. (Even the creators just have the .ml instance)

No ads, and no corporate pressures to be advertiser friendly.

No weird profit-driven decisions.

[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago

Well, an instance could decide they wanted to try to make money, but I think everyone would just bail on them. People are more than happy to help out servers with donations, no need to make it a business venture.

[-] joenforcer@midwest.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think so. There are very few communities that actually successfully fully left reddit. A good number of them splintered across circlejerkers on multiple lemmy instances with the users remaining on reddit asking "what's a lemmy" and staying put. The vast majority never left reddit at all, and don't give a fuck that reddit is trying to build a business.

Where the lemmy hivemind fails is that a bunch of us are reddit refugees that lost our favorite mobile apps, so you get a bunch of delusional people here thinking that reddit is dead and lemmy is the best thing ever. It's not. Lemmy has a lot of the same problems reddit had, and we're just repeating history. Wait until you need to squash extremism, prevent illegal content, and people maintaining the main instance (don't kid yourself, it's lemmy.world) need to eat.

[-] Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

For me, that's not the case. I enjoyed the amount of content and discussion, but I just lost interest in reddit over time.

I saw the same jokes too often. I got sick of seeing the ads. The admins perma-banned my fiancee's account, despite her never really commenting or posting. They never gave a reason for banning her, other than going against "policy", which they never specified when asked. It would be the equivilant of being banned from every single instance. Some of the "helpful" communities were becoming much more toxic over time. I stayed despite that stuff.

Then, the API thing happened. It wasn't that reddit wanted to profit, but rather how they went about it. Had they been honest with the developers when they asked at the start of the contract year, it would have been much smoother. You can't change the cost of a yearly subscription halfway through the year. I disliked the provable false rumors that were spread about developers.

I disliked that Spez heavily implied that people leaving reddit would harm reddit employees. He didn't make that statement about someone who made those threats, but instead he made it about the people leaving. It left a very bad taste in my mouth. I'm not monetarily supporting someone like that if I have any say in the matter.

I disliked the sudden overwhelming toxicity that I saw start against people who were recommending Lemmy. I get being rude to people who are rude, but it's lame to be rude just because. Someone told me that I would be back, that I should just wait to see them right. That person helped me stay off reddit, tbh.

I don't understand fanaticism, regardless of the company/platform/group, etc. If I start to dislike a social media, I will move somewhere that I like better. If Lemmy becomes like what Reddit is today, I'll leave Lemmy too. There's always something else. I also don't really care if Reddit sinks or swims. That has nothing to do with me. If I get sick of all social media, I won't use it. There are lots of other things to do with free time.

[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Not really what I was talking about, but ok.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

The scenario of companies opting to host instances may happen, just to try to jump into the bandwagon, which could imply they could/would at some point start to run ads but I'd risk the instance would quickly be defederated and/or turned into a hell pit.

But the notion of seeing an instance being run by GOG, Valve/Steam (not a client or fan but I aknowledge they have put a lot of work towards Linux and gained a lot of support because of it), AMD (fanboy here, give me a pass), RPi (I am aware of the shady turn they have undergone) and other companies that have some degree of respect in the Fediverse could be interesting.

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, but CAPITALISM!!!

Well except for apps like Boost which are proprietary and has ads.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 1 year ago

They took way too long to come to town, and now they have and it has ads, I don't even want it, since Liftoff has pretty much the same UI and without ads.

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