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[–] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 minutes ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

I thought Libation merely broke the TOS, not violated the law (UK). Doesn't matter, I'm on a different vendor now.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

even IF you buy DRM free items it can still be taken away.
Source: "Sick Boi" by Ren on BandCamp got taken out of my library, should be in the #2 spot

bandcamp (DRM free)

Spotify (not DRM free)

I understand it is a copyright thing (even though the artist did literally nothing wrong) but still! It fits the flowchart in the meme.

[–] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 42 minutes ago)

That sucks and all, but to be fair this is entirely on you. They sold you a DRM-Free file and you chose to not actually use it and to rely on their servers which you have no control over. This isn't a "DRM Free" issue.

Personal ownership means you take personal responsibility for it.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 hour ago

If you buy something DRM free, you must keep an offline copy. They can take away the option to download it, but they can't prevent you from playing the copy you already downloaded.

[–] dubious_savior@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

On Bandcamp you could have downloaded the files, the song could still be playable and you would still own it. DRM-free just allows you to download stuff so that if anything changes in the future you still have the original available, anything hosted can be changed at any time in order to stay out of trouble as a site owner. It still sucks that this is happening though

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 hours ago

yeah I get why, it's just such BS

[–] mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 hours ago

This shows us that the entire (modern) concept of buying digital goods is flawed

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 23 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Hold up is this real?


EDIT Holy fucking shit it's real: https://xkcd.com/488/

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago

Louis Rossmann shouts this from the YouTube rooftops all the time. Why not Randall?

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 26 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Of course it's real. This is maybe one of the least shocking beliefs from a webcomic like xkcd ever. Like 1/5 of all the comics are about hacker culture or Linux.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Okay but programing or Unix jokes are whole different cake than openly admitting piracy unless you're Meta.

[–] jlow@beehaw.org 1 points 19 minutes ago
[–] sunshine@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago

He's gotten a bit less edgy over the years. Mostly in good ways.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 23 points 10 hours ago

Fuck yeah Randall is based af.

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 34 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

I will never forgive Microsoft for just straight up deleting everyone's (mine) MineCraft purchases and accounts, and then having the gall to tell us to buy it again. It's still in my Microsoft Store purchase history, for Christ's sake.

I'd sooner buy Skyrim 4 more times than buy back what was stolen from me.

[–] Probius@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 hours ago

It should be illegal to revoke or modify people's purchases. All games should be able to be kept and played using the version you bought it at except maybe MMOs due to technical reasons. Forced updates and DRM need to be outlawed.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago

I literally had to look this up just now. Such a high profile game did such a huge thing and somehow I am just now hearing about it? Insane, tbh.

I chose to pirate Minecraft back when Notch was charging $20 CAD for a game in which the health bar didn't work, and I've been nothing but validated by every decision around the game since.

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 hours ago

I haven't played Minecraft since they took it from me.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Bandcamp, even though it's ownership is questionable at this point, still has Bandcamp Fridays where the artist gets 100% of the sale, and they let you download DRM-free high quality FLAC files.

This is for all those who don't like this, and want to demand DRM-free files.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

sometimes, especially with niche artists, there aren't that many high quality flacs out there in the first place

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, the one thing that keeps me on spotify

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago

I usually go with Bandcamp, SoundCloud and YouTube (latter two in rare cases) downloads when I can't find it as a Torrent or on Soulseek (using Nicotine +)

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

iTunes sells drm-free music downloads. The still do, if you go to the iTunes Store and not the Apple Music streaming surface.

There are better options out there though, like BandCamp.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Bandcamp only works if the band originated there. Most labels don't sell anything through bandcamp. If a label doesn't release digital lossless for me to buy it's getting downloaded on Soulseek.

[–] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 34 minutes ago

Qobuz and 7digital have pretty good libraries and high quality downloads.

[–] windowsphoneguy@feddit.org 4 points 8 hours ago

Also PSA that Amazon Auto-Rip still exists for all CD and vinyl purchases you ever used your account for

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

256kbps AAC is still proprietary, but you can convert it to an MP3 with something like dBPowerAmp

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] grey_maniac@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Advanced Audio Coding (AAC) is patented and requires a license for legal use.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I mean so is MP3. If you really want to be a non-proprietary purist you need to rely on Opus for a lossy audio compression, which is not as widely supported in music players as MP3 or AAC.

[–] xep@fedia.io 3 points 4 hours ago

MP3's licenses and patents have expired.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Don't do this. You will lose quality every time you re-transcode an audio file. AAC is supported by basically everything now.

Also MP3 is a pretty bad format all things considered. The most efficient format is Opus, it's open source and transparent at 160kbps.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 30 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Just gonna leave that here:
https://github.com/rmcrackan/Libation

Syncs and deDRMs your Audible library in a configurable interval. Also works headless on your server

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

i don't buy audible anymore but i had a sizable library from before and this works great!

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago

A lot of books only get Audible Originals, so I don't really get around it. This way I can still keep it on my own server and serve it through Plex.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 23 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

For games, always buy from GOG if you can. Unless it's a game I really want I only buy from GOG.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Many Steam games are actually DRM free. You can just copy the game folder onto a flash drive, sometimes modify a single file, and then run it from the flash drive in any PC.

You should still buy from GOG first imo, but I wouldn't entirely count out Steam.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Well, it's still a hack, not something officially supported, I wouldn't really consider them DRM-free when you still need Steam to run the game officially.

I'm not ruling out Steam either, they've done a lot of good for gaming and I buy games there if I really want them and there's close to no chance they're coming to GOG (like the recent Dragon Age), but more and more often I decide that I don't actually want that game that much.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 hours ago

if it’s not on GOG, you can also check itch.io!

iirc all games there are DRM-free as well (tho I could be wrong)

[–] windowsphoneguy@feddit.org 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

But then you should also back up the optional downloadable install files for each game. Just using the launcher is not a fail proof way to keep your game collection

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 12 points 10 hours ago

Indeed, there are many tools to do that, one of them of my own making: https://github.com/RikudouSage/GogDownloader

But even if you don't back them up, at least you signal that DRM-free is important to you by buying there.

[–] original_reader@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago

...or Humble Bundle if they offer the actual software download.

Not if they just offer Steam keys.

In my opinion.