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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh noes the ponzi scheme of capitalism will collapse.

Don’t worry, by 2100 famines will make those numbers look hopeful.

[–] Tiuku@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 days ago

"Visual capitalist", really..?

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Brown is good. There are too many people. We need to be less.

[–] splendoruranium@infosec.pub 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Too many for what? What's the bottleneck?

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Resources, living and recreational space, pollution...

[–] splendoruranium@infosec.pub 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Resources, living and recreational space, pollution

What's the maximum capacity for resources, living and recreational space and pollution?

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

3 billion humans in the world. About 300 million for Europe.

3 billion humans in the world. About 300 million for Europe.

How do we calculate that?

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sure, Swiss is going to increase by exactly 158 POINT 7 Thousand.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

We've been growing at 60k a year or so for decades. Went from 6m to 9m in just 25 years. This graphic misleading as it apparently ignores immigration.

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago

I was referring to the false confidence of forecasting Switzerland to the hundreds.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It literally says it takes migration into account.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 1 points 5 days ago

Well then it is wildly incorrect

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Darkenfolk@dormi.zone 1 points 5 days ago
[–] daw@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago

And still people don't realise what a blessing immigration actually is for everybody involved!

[–] kbal@fedia.io 64 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Demographics can tell you a lot about how it will go in 20 or 30 years, but trying to predict what will happen in 75 years β€” based on trends that have only been in place for a decade β€” is foolish.

[–] Obelix@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And let's not forget: Europe is literally drowning people who want to live there in the Mediterranean. There will also be refugees coming from whatever happens to the USA right now who want to get out. That map might be based on current population trends, but political events will change everything there.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Currently the illegal immigrants won't get a work or resident permit to support the economy there, and with the the right wing politics in many countries this won't change anytime soon.

[–] Obelix@feddit.org 1 points 5 days ago

Let's be honest: this will change extremely quick when the industry is missing workers. Take a look at Germany - yeah, rampant antimigrant rhetoric, but you can work if you're there after a while

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not like that the creators calling themselves "Visual Capitalist" wasn't a dead give away that this would be based on foolish assumptions πŸ™„

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 6 points 6 days ago

The forecast comes from the United Nations. "Visual Capitalist" just made the graphic.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Visual Capitalist makes tons of great infographics, actually. I'm not sure how nobody in this thread has heard of them.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

2 things:

  1. This isn’t a data is beautiful or map enthusiasts community, it’s c/europe.
  2. its not the most memorable name, and has the name capitalist in it, which at this point in our late stage era is a touchy subject at best.
[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 3 points 4 days ago

fwiw: Info graphics are allowed, as long as they're sourced.

[–] widerporst@feddit.org 50 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Whose idea was it to make the color scale absolute instead of relative to the current population?

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

No kidding. That's like half of Lithuania.

There is a joke they say sometimes, something along the lines of "ok but just remember if you're the last to leave remember to turn off the lights"

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago

I love that people are beginning to review cartographic methods, I distrust (and love) cartographers.

[–] idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

On the source there is a table with the percentages, so the creator of the map had that data but they choose to display this nonsense instead:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-how-europes-population-will-change-by-2100/#tablepress-5264_wrapper

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 days ago

RIP Andorra.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Then let's add climate change to the table and all bets are off.

[–] BearGun@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 days ago

Yea if we keep going as we are is likely to get REAL cold up in Scandinavia in a few decades, somehow i doubt the population is gonna increase from that.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

The water wars and the subsequent great migrations alone, will make those predictors irrelevant, must less the wwiii that will follow.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 week ago

Oh no we won’t be considering that. We’re still pretending that’s just an issue for the polar bears.

[–] banghida@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago