this post was submitted on 11 Jan 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.


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For "Troll" even though I've been boycotting .ml for a while and haven't made a single post or comment anywhere on .ml lmao

Fairly certain it was over my post (https://lemmy.world/post/24123469) on my home instance community lol

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[–] spireghost@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

Why do these whining posts get upvotes? Nobody cares, that's the whole point of the federation. You can move where you want to be

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Getting banned from .ml means you're still sane. That's a good thing.

[–] recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's ALWAYS the tankenstein response.

Idc if it's lemmygrad, hexbear, ml or whatever new slime-pit they exodus towards when the greater community defederates from them (AGAIN).

These "people" are cretins holding back Lemmys growth potential with 80 year old propaganda and shallow worldviews lacking substance.

You have been banned from .ml

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

PTB for sure.

You should only ban a user for activity outside your "turf" in extreme cases, that endanger your users; at most that endanger your community. Clearly not the case here.

Also, a year long ban? Seriously??? The only situation that I can see a mod/admin doing it is when they want to permaban a user, but still say "ackshyually le user wasn't permabanned lol. we banned them for a limited time lmao."

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago

You should only ban a user for activity outside your “turf” in extreme cases, that endanger your users; at most that endanger your community. Clearly not the case here.

Somebody tell the dubvee.org admin that

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can see a (good faith) admin as wanting to do a 1 year ban instead of permanent in hopes that in a year a person will reflect on their actions and have a different outlook when it expires. Though yeah in this case it's probably just to make people not go as far as they could in calling it out, so they can say "it's not that bad, it's a temporary ban".

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Even if they [a hypothetical admin, not this case] expect the person to reflect on their actions, a whole year seems too long. Odds are that the user will simply forget about the comm/instance and move on.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 16 hours ago

Yeah that is true, at least it is for all the ones which aren't critical-mass communities or instances (ones that are a large percentage or engagement and userbase here). The ones that are, would likely be more detrimental and someone banned from those would be more likely to leave Lemmy, or violate the will of admins by evading those bans on new accounts.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, feels more like they aren't allowed to permanently ban, so they use the next best thing.

[–] kuato@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Looks like you got site banned, bud. Maybe they had enough of you making shitposts about how lemmy.world should defederate from lemmy.ml. I know I'm tired of seeing them.

Maybe your shitposting about lemmy.ml while at the same time reposting lemmy.ml's memes to lemmy.world was the last straw. Is shit-stirring inter-Lemmy drama really what you want to be doing with your life?

[–] recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I support the defederation. A LOT of users do.

.ml slop is garbage tier at BEST.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trouble is, a lot of big communities are there.

The network effect exists because adoption is a feature you can't design.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

Most of the ml communities have alternatives that are active enough

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, can't say I didn't try to keep my shit posting balanced. Apparently, anti-.ml shitposts are ok but shitposts on internal instance problems are "unnecessary drama"

[–] kuato@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If you dislike how lemmy.world is being run so much, why don't you pick different instance, or create your own instance, or go back to Reddit, or take up a different hobby?

You seem technically skilled. You can start cm0002.world and power trip however you want.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

If people don't like how their country is run, why don't they leave instead of trying to improve it?

I'm sorry but the start a new instance argument people throw around to dismiss moderation issues is a stupid one. Why? Because on federated systems like Lemmy, the instance that has the bigger slice of the pie (most users, most active communities) has the most control and power. Meaning the biggest platforms have the ability to kill your Fediverse experience almost completely, and starting a new server or joining another one won't help you if you're banned (I'm assuming you're not going for intentional ban evasion) and if you're being censored, it also won't help you because they'll still censor you from the majority of the fediverse. If they're big and powerful enough they may even get others to join them in defederating your instance, making the impact that much bigger.

So while it is technecally true to say that Fediverse platforms are decentralized, I think it is dishonest and disingenuous to try and frame moderation issues like the ones with Lemmy.world or lemmy.ml as ones that can be solved by starting your own server, or migrating to another server. They can't, because those servers control a larger portion of the pie, as in the communities and the userbase available.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean .world is fine most of the time, the meme was about a recent change where mods are apparently not supposed to remove obvious misinformation and instead "fight it with words"

why don't you pick different instance

Under evaluation

create your own instance

Under evaluation; waiting for Lemmy alternatives, like piefed, to mature more

go back to Reddit

Hell no, most of my disdain here is centered around letting Tankies run rampant with their misinformation genocide denying authoritarian praising crap. Everything else is at worst a "meh"

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

That mod is the kind of person who would go through your history and downvote every single comment you ever made just because you didn't agree with them once. Also the sort of person who's going to make getting banned from .ml something to be proud of.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolutely PTB, it's one thing to silence a user for personal beliefs that go against the admins in the communities on that server (which is also PTB in and of itself) but it's a whole other level to do it to someone for actions outside of those communities or the instance.

This type of thing is unfortunately common on lemmy.ml, I'm kind of surprised there aren't more posts here calling them out on it.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Probably because there's the MeanwhileOnGrad community for that sort of thing.

[–] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

incessantly whines about ml/world defederation

gets site-wide ban on ml

"oh those goddamn PTB tankies"

This doesn't seem to have anything to do with YDI/PTB. You just got what you wanted without degrading the user experience of entire .world and .ml user bases.

[–] greenshirtdenimjeans@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now you can talk shit all over .ml and the only users that can see it would be non-.ml people. Welcome to the club

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh is that what happens with a site ban? I knew it would prevent me from voting, commenting and posting on .ml (oh no!) Did not realize it would prevent them from seeing my posts lolol

Welcome to the club

Thanks! I'll wear it as a badge of honor!

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm surprised they didn't ban you from your meme with the 2 ways from a few days ago.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk -4 points 1 day ago

You're probably banned for something as Reddity as checks notes using stupid fucking phrases like checks notes "checks notes"