Why do these whining posts get upvotes? Nobody cares, that's the whole point of the federation. You can move where you want to be
Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
Rules
- Post only about bans or other sanctions from mod(s).
- Provide the cause of the sanction (e.g. the text of the comment).
- Provide the reason given by the mods for the sanction.
- Don't use private communications to prove your point. We can't verify them and they can be faked easily.
- Don't deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
- Don't harass mods or brigade comms. Don't word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
- Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
- You can post about power trippin' in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
Relevant comms
Getting banned from .ml means you're still sane. That's a good thing.
That's ALWAYS the tankenstein response.
Idc if it's lemmygrad, hexbear, ml or whatever new slime-pit they exodus towards when the greater community defederates from them (AGAIN).
These "people" are cretins holding back Lemmys growth potential with 80 year old propaganda and shallow worldviews lacking substance.
You have been banned from .ml
PTB for sure.
You should only ban a user for activity outside your "turf" in extreme cases, that endanger your users; at most that endanger your community. Clearly not the case here.
Also, a year long ban? Seriously??? The only situation that I can see a mod/admin doing it is when they want to permaban a user, but still say "ackshyually le user wasn't permabanned lol. we banned them for a limited time lmao."
You should only ban a user for activity outside your “turf” in extreme cases, that endanger your users; at most that endanger your community. Clearly not the case here.
Somebody tell the dubvee.org admin that
I can see a (good faith) admin as wanting to do a 1 year ban instead of permanent in hopes that in a year a person will reflect on their actions and have a different outlook when it expires. Though yeah in this case it's probably just to make people not go as far as they could in calling it out, so they can say "it's not that bad, it's a temporary ban".
Even if they [a hypothetical admin, not this case] expect the person to reflect on their actions, a whole year seems too long. Odds are that the user will simply forget about the comm/instance and move on.
Yeah that is true, at least it is for all the ones which aren't critical-mass communities or instances (ones that are a large percentage or engagement and userbase here). The ones that are, would likely be more detrimental and someone banned from those would be more likely to leave Lemmy, or violate the will of admins by evading those bans on new accounts.
Yeah, feels more like they aren't allowed to permanently ban, so they use the next best thing.
Looks like you got site banned, bud. Maybe they had enough of you making shitposts about how lemmy.world should defederate from lemmy.ml. I know I'm tired of seeing them.
Maybe your shitposting about lemmy.ml while at the same time reposting lemmy.ml's memes to lemmy.world was the last straw. Is shit-stirring inter-Lemmy drama really what you want to be doing with your life?
I support the defederation. A LOT of users do.
.ml slop is garbage tier at BEST.
Trouble is, a lot of big communities are there.
The network effect exists because adoption is a feature you can't design.
Most of the ml communities have alternatives that are active enough
Well, can't say I didn't try to keep my shit posting balanced. Apparently, anti-.ml shitposts are ok but shitposts on internal instance problems are "unnecessary drama"
If you dislike how lemmy.world is being run so much, why don't you pick different instance, or create your own instance, or go back to Reddit, or take up a different hobby?
You seem technically skilled. You can start cm0002.world and power trip however you want.
If people don't like how their country is run, why don't they leave instead of trying to improve it?
I'm sorry but the start a new instance argument people throw around to dismiss moderation issues is a stupid one. Why? Because on federated systems like Lemmy, the instance that has the bigger slice of the pie (most users, most active communities) has the most control and power. Meaning the biggest platforms have the ability to kill your Fediverse experience almost completely, and starting a new server or joining another one won't help you if you're banned (I'm assuming you're not going for intentional ban evasion) and if you're being censored, it also won't help you because they'll still censor you from the majority of the fediverse. If they're big and powerful enough they may even get others to join them in defederating your instance, making the impact that much bigger.
So while it is technecally true to say that Fediverse platforms are decentralized, I think it is dishonest and disingenuous to try and frame moderation issues like the ones with Lemmy.world or lemmy.ml as ones that can be solved by starting your own server, or migrating to another server. They can't, because those servers control a larger portion of the pie, as in the communities and the userbase available.
I mean .world is fine most of the time, the meme was about a recent change where mods are apparently not supposed to remove obvious misinformation and instead "fight it with words"
why don't you pick different instance
Under evaluation
create your own instance
Under evaluation; waiting for Lemmy alternatives, like piefed, to mature more
go back to Reddit
Hell no, most of my disdain here is centered around letting Tankies run rampant with their misinformation genocide denying authoritarian praising crap. Everything else is at worst a "meh"
That mod is the kind of person who would go through your history and downvote every single comment you ever made just because you didn't agree with them once. Also the sort of person who's going to make getting banned from .ml something to be proud of.
Absolutely PTB, it's one thing to silence a user for personal beliefs that go against the admins in the communities on that server (which is also PTB in and of itself) but it's a whole other level to do it to someone for actions outside of those communities or the instance.
This type of thing is unfortunately common on lemmy.ml, I'm kind of surprised there aren't more posts here calling them out on it.
Probably because there's the MeanwhileOnGrad community for that sort of thing.
incessantly whines about ml/world defederation
gets site-wide ban on ml
"oh those goddamn PTB tankies"
This doesn't seem to have anything to do with YDI/PTB. You just got what you wanted without degrading the user experience of entire .world and .ml user bases.
Now you can talk shit all over .ml and the only users that can see it would be non-.ml people. Welcome to the club
Oh is that what happens with a site ban? I knew it would prevent me from voting, commenting and posting on .ml (oh no!) Did not realize it would prevent them from seeing my posts lolol
Welcome to the club
Thanks! I'll wear it as a badge of honor!
I'm surprised they didn't ban you from your meme with the 2 ways from a few days ago.
You're probably banned for something as Reddity as checks notes using stupid fucking phrases like checks notes "checks notes"