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[–] small44@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Will trump be the one to finally destroy usa global influence?

[–] narp@feddit.org 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's what Putin wants, so yeah.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

It's also what the countries bullied by the usa also want

[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago

He clearly thinks he’s going to extend it. But he may indeed cause irreparable damage.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I think he already has. The U.S. is still militarily influential of course, but no one...NO ONE...takes their political leaders as anything more than unhinged toddlers anymore.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Well to be fair, some leaders are seen as credible but everything is now predicated on the possibility that the guy elected in 4 years just decides to not honor anything. That used to be one of the hallmarks of the US, presidents honored the deals and such of previous presidents. So you'd know your deal would last or at least be renegotiated in good faith. Not so anymore.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

The traditional deal is you only get to threaten folk who haven't access to nukes. If they have, your threat can be ignored. That's why North Korea is a thing and Saddam Hussein isn't.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (1 children)

100%. European army is long overdue, with Trump trying to destroy NATO.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 20 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

EU needs to formally invite Canada to the union in response.

[–] sith@lemmy.zip 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Or rather, Canada should invite some blue leaning states to join their far superior project.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Marginally superior. They've got their own problems with right-wing politics, genocidal past and continued mistreatment of native peoples, foreign investors upending local economies, unsustainable extraction of natural resources, and they're still connected to a heriditary monarchy for fucks sake. But they have better healthcare and safer cops.

[–] SAF77@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

Nice. Imagine this mindfuck.

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Before 2022/2014 I wasn't quite sure why they think they need European armed forces, now it's obvious why they need it. (Would be good if the EU stays a voluntary confederation and not what the US is.)

Two front hybrid warfare is not good for the EU.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I've always believed deeply that the European Union was a model for how we, as a species, have to evolve in order to reach that next step. Not in a Star Trek ideal of "one planet", but at least in a "cooperation" that allows us to stop fighting each other.

Hell...I'm even a believer IN a North American version of the same thing. Just not in the way that Trump is wanting it and NOT with Trump anywhere near the decision making process. A North American federation on good terms with the EU federation would be great as long as adults were in charge and sovereignty was respected rather an a man-child shouting out bullshit all the time.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

We could never have a North American Union. NAFTA was the first step and nationalists in the US and Mexico made it very clear they would commit violence if we dared so much as approach the EU model.

Yes. As much as the EU has done a good job in many ways, I’d much prefer it stay a confederation than a federation.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 18 points 1 day ago

Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (14 children)

I would like to see more opinions from the Greenland locals, but I doubt that they want to exchange Denmark with the USA.

[–] imerayuk@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I would like to see more opinions from the Greenland locals, but I doubt that they want to exchange Denmark with the USA.

I do know that they want to go independent and it seems as if a majority wants to be part of the European Union:

According to a poll (auto-translated):

40 years after Greenland left the EU, the mood is perhaps turning.

In a survey conducted by Nasiffik – the Centre for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy on Ilisimatusarfik – 60 percent of respondents say that they will vote 'aap' if a referendum was held on Greenlandic membership of the EU.

  • It is a surprising result that there is now a relatively large majority in the Greenlandic population who believe that Greenland should join the EU, says Rasmus Leander Nielsen, head of Nasiffik.

[...]

https://knr.gl/da/nyheder/flertal-vil-have-groenland-tilbage-i-eu

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

So the president of the greenlandic parliament made a focus of his new year's speech to talk about increased autonomy from historical danish colonialism and continuing the past 8 years of work on a new constitution. These topics are pretty important for his reelection campaign this year. However, apparently AP or Reuters picked up on the story and now there's 100s of imperialistic articles online talking about "Greenland makes sudden shift towards independence after Trump discussions" and "Nuuk is closer to New York than Copenhagen".

Now Trump Jr went to Greenland and Trump is threatening to use military force to take Greenland, and all the Greenlandic politicians are freaking out that the Americans are about to take away their sovereignty.

https://naalakkersuisut-gl.translate.goog/Nyheder/2025/01/0201_Nytaarstale-2025?sc_lang=da&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US

https://www.knr.gl/da/nyheder/mute-b-egede-maner-til-ro-groenland-er-groenlaendernes

https://www.knr.gl/da/nyheder/maaske-et-mediestunt-men-alligevel-alvorligt

Source: Me, a swede who can read GL news articles written in Danish

[–] sith@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks from a fellow Swede! Basically the only thing I know about Greenland is that it's a good place if you want to get really really drunk. And then there is the old colonial issue. Never talked to a Greenlander, but the Icelanders I know seem to still be quite hostile towards Denmark, so I just extrapolate from there. Different ethnicity probably don't make things easier.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, I've never talked to any greenlanders, either, but It was strange when my American friends were talking about "Greenland announcing their independence" when it hadn't been reported in DN or Omni at all.

All the English articles about the new years' speech seemed very imperialistic and all of the recent events cited were covered in a very different tone in Swedish and Danish news. Once you read the actual new year's speech I think you get a much better understanding of the Greenlandic position separate from all the imperialistic ambitions of Trump and whatever pro-Trump AP/Reuters journalist wrote the article.

Greenlanders are saying in the news now that Americans are misunderstanding the new year's speech but now apparently Trump's dynasty is calling it fake news and insisting that Greenlanders want to give them their natural resources. https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-jr-leaves-greenland/

Anyways, it would be an interesting place to visit sometime!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

"Please! Take away our healthcare!"

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[–] sith@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] sith@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] LorIps@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you want Greenland to be annexed cause fuck the Danes I assume? /s

[–] sith@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

That would be the rational and just thing of course. But this time I gave them a bit of slack, since they removed Sweden from their royal weapon. Maybe silly...

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 6 points 1 day ago
[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I almost hope trunp goes full-on military raid and gets the whole world sicked on him. Like the whole rest of the world becomes the united superpower because they have a common enemy.

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