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The website icon has changed, name changed to Israel, and the site title now includes a slur.

Anyone, if you know anything, please let the rest of us know.

edit: Most things seem to be okay now.

Edit 2: we are under attack again.

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[–] nosut@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Admin account was compromised. Looks like they are working on it but it will take a bit to fix all the stupid that was done.

EDIT: Looks like things are starting to resolve.

EDIT 2: MichelleG account admin was restored and she posted and update but shortly after the changes happened again. Her account is likely still compromised with someone else accessing things via it.

EDIT 3: lemmy.world back online. MichelleG has again been removed as admin. Most things appear to have been cleaned up. Blocked instances still need to be fixed however.

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It really wouldn't hurt to have admins in different timezones as right now this hack could have been much worse, imagine everything gets deleted and the site redirects to CP, the reputation gets immediately destroyed.

The hackers however knew what they were doing, they seem to know Lemmy well enough and it's curious that they targeted lemmy.world despite it being popular only among people already a bit familiar with Lemmy and the Fediverse. Other people would usually look at join-lemmy and lemmy.ml first.

[–] Soullioness@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

As frustrating as that would be, it wouldn't be permanent I know they're very serious with backups. A roll back is annoying but not really that damaging.

[–] TheVampireSaga@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

fyi for anyone curious, they've targeted multiple other instances now

[–] makeitso@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Looks like it is compromised once again? It was fine for me and just a minute ago went back to “Israel” and porn.

[–] nosut@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. MichelleG admin was added back and posted an update but it doesnt appear that her account was fully secured so they are probably still accessing it via her account.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And this is why 2FA is so important.

[–] Obscura@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It’s my understanding that the attack compromised an already active, authenticated session, which would get around 2FA.

[–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] clueless_stoner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's happening again.

[–] Vupperware@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How this fool know so much?

[–] mawp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] mawp@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

We did it ~~Reddit~~ Lemmy!

[–] dopeshark@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Images you can hear

[–] nosut@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's all public information.

Admins are shown on the front page

Modlog shows even when an admin is added or removed.

Blocked instances are shown in the instances list.

[–] clueless_stoner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Correct. I hope all our communities stay safe.

[–] spez@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice community you have here, would be a shame if something happened to it.

[–] praxician@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Hey! You're not welcome here! Git. Shoo. Go on now!

[–] Bakunin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

An ~~moderator~~ admin account MichelleG posted a few strange things that have since been removed. One was titled "We've whitelisted Threads.net" and all the post said was "go cry." They may have been hacked or their account was compromised.

[–] average650@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would take more than a mod to do this. Maybe an admin was compromised though.

[–] Bakunin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a good point. I'm quite certain the account was MichelleG.

[–] average650@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I'm seeing that posted elsewhere. That account, but they are an admin.

[–] plutolink@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think so. Going through an app avoids it, but on web it’s doing the same thing. Also with the lemon party redirect. I thought I was hallucinating, or something.

[–] Eczpurt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah so far the apps have no issues doing regular Lemmy things. Going to the website itself actually led me to a pretty distasteful snapchat screenshot.

[–] gkd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You got a Snapchat screenshot? I got…let’s just say it was two older gentlemen having some fun

[–] clueless_stoner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's good that the apps are working properly at least. There are children here

[–] melchus_od@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not hallucination. I run into the same issue

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I really really hope my credentials aren’t compromised now.

Edit: I recommend logging out on the website if you’re logged in, just in case they messed with the JavaScript files to harvest login tokens/cookies/etc.

[–] boeman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never use the same credential in multiple places.

If you always do that, then an account like this won't matter if it's compromised.

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I never use the same exact password twice, but let’s say there’s a pattern involved. The only way someone could figure out my passwords is if they compromise my account on multiple websites, get the passwords in clear text, and figure out the overarching pattern.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I think password requirements have probably made this true for most people. You can show mathematically that requiring numbers and a lowercase and uppercase and so forth is actually less protection than having a longer password. If I had a lowercase 20 character password, it would be way more powerful than a 10 character password with a variety of characters -- at least when it comes to brute force attempts.

(Let's say there's 10 special characters, so you get 26+26+10 = 62 possible characters per slot. For a 10 character password, there's 62^10 possibilities, approx 8.4E17. All you've got for the lowercase password is 26 possible characters per slot for 20 total characters, or 26^20 possibilities. That's approx 2E28 possibilities.)

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Or read this comment...

[–] messem10@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also use a password manager such that you can have randomly generated passwords for sites.

[–] Gullible@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Or, everyone’s password should be “password.” Hackers will be too busy compromising an endless stream of accounts to use any of them. Checkmate.

[–] Existential_prices@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It also will auto link you to lemonparty.

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[–] ThatGirlKylie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah on web it says Israel - N**ga style. I was not expecting that at all.

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The website is now redirecting to porn, it looks like a XSS injection.

[–] TheVampireSaga@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy in general or just world?

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

just .world, it's a JavaScript redirection though so that means Lemmy in general has an XSS vulnerability and this will happen on other instances too if an admin account gets compromised

[–] TheVampireSaga@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I seem to remember this coming up a lot where the users and other instance admins kept questioning the security of the site.

[–] gtfomyinterweb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Seems I just missed it lol. Is it back to normal now? Using an app I'm not seeing anything unusual.

[–] sykccc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Good luck admins, may the odds be in your favour

[–] lemminer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I thought you were trolling. I didn't even realised since I'm using liftoff.

[–] Debo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone message Ruud yet?!?

[–] TheVampireSaga@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

guy doesn't respond to pings or messages, don't bother lol

[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TheVampireSaga@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No I know that, I mean specifically he's said to not dm him because ge probably won't get to it.

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