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at last, OpenAI's official definition of "AGI"! Can you guess what it is? (gizmodo.com)
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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Relevant info is in the first paragraph. Probably more info in the linked article by the group that actually got the leaked docs.

According to leaked documents obtained by The Information, the two companies [Microsoft and OpenAI] came to agree in 2023 that AGI will be achieved once OpenAI has developed an AI system that can generate at least $100 billion in profits.

AGI will be achieved once OpenAI has developed an AI system that can generate at least $100 billion in profits

I mean, at least it's not some stupid vaguery that armchair dullards will argue in circles forever about word meanings and minor technicalities that have nothing to do with AI and everything to do with their own malformed views of reality and humans behavior.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I mean, at least it’s not some stupid vaguery that armchair dullards will argue in circles forever about word meanings and minor technicalities that have nothing to do with AI and everything to do with their own malformed views of reality and humans behavior.

They're called "programmers". They think it makes them sound smart.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Programmers don't have a say in any of these shenanigans. Specially marketing definitions or business buzz words like what they just made here.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago

well, if they both agreed for it then it'll be easy for courts to decide

[–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry, missed some words at the end there.

I was just bitterly celebrating that at least this dumb money based definition doesn't give people more shit to argue over.

I'm real tired of the armchair philosophy 101 shit people keep spouting. "But what really is intelligence? How do you know humans aren't just stochastic parrots? If you redefine words to mean different things and oversimplify everything, there's no difference between a human and an LLM. You're just too stupid to see the truth while I am very very smart."

[–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 18 points 2 weeks ago

@dgerard some time next year: "We've now redefined what '100 billion dollars' means"

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Attractive Gullibility Inducer

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Albanian Gulash Incident.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Anti-social Goober Incubator

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Anterior Gas Indicator

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 7 points 2 weeks ago

A Guy in India

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Wait, does "generate profit" include selling products that don't actually exist yet? Like, has the "AI" generated profit if Sam Altman's unrealistic promises pull in more investments, even if none of the promises are ever delivered?

[–] mountainriver@awful.systems 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, this is real profits. Real profits turned over to Microsoft:

Microsoft’s current agreement with OpenAI entitles it and other investors to take a slice of profits until they collect $100 billion.

Heads, Microsoft makes tens of billions in profit on their investment. Tails and Microsoft keeps Open AI in a tight embrace until they have sucked everything they want from them.

Would be smart, except they are sucking poison. Let's see how Microsoft's monopoly position can get them out of this jam!

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

If anything it will put them in a deeper hole.

[–] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

It's amazing that this dude has whined his way into riches. As far as I can tell the only thing he does is that stupid face

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 13 points 2 weeks ago

Is this the leaked script for Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money?

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 12 points 2 weeks ago

Well there's only $150B to go for OpenAi then

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 12 points 2 weeks ago

Damn. I thought I was cynical, but nowhere near as cynical as OpenAI is, apparently.

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 12 points 2 weeks ago

[Elon Musk] has also complained in court that OpenAI pays exorbitant salaries in a way that is intended to thwart rivals and therefore anti-competitive.

Yeah, what's with this new fangled idea of retaining employees with enviable conditions? Very bad for the economy.

obligatory /s I guess but I mean come on

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 5 points 2 weeks ago

hahahahahahahahahaha