Why are they in debt in the first place? Be a church, not a corporation.
this post was submitted on 18 Dec 2024
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Except they have billions in stolen art and could liquidate it at any point. If not trillions, actually.
Nobody knows exactly what Vatican has but Porphyry Basin in the Vatican Museum is estimated to be worth 2$ billion alone (it was commissioned by Emperor Nero).
Vatican could literally end the world hunger with their treasure hoard.
Vatican could literally end the world hunger with their treasure hoard.
No they couldn’t. They’d end up making a bunch of warlords into billionaires while the regular people would go on starving. The only way to end world hunger is grassroots economic development and education (especially for women). You can’t do that by dumping billions of dollars into those countries. The problem is very tricky and the work is long and arduous.
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Their art collection is so massive, containing such crazy rare items, many cannot have a price tag as they are literally priceless. It's impossible to calculate its value due to the extreme rarity, or because anything like it to compare it's value to is also in the Vatican collection.
When they sell 1 priceless art item, they can sustain themselves for a year. They have hundreds of thousands of those items, if not millions.
Saying the Vatican goes bankrupt sounds like "Elon Musk struggles to pay for his groceries".
Sounds to me their massive stream of money is declining and they want to scare people into giving them more money.
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Why would they want to end world hunger? What could motivate them to do so?
Hmm...
Just pray. If your God is the creator of the universe, it's pretty likely he can handle the situation once you let him know.
Dont forget the thoughts.
Sell your fucking chair, you clown.
Pope Francis got rid of that already, some 10 years ago.
I haven't seen him on that chair since, but I'm sure it's somewhere collecting dust.
Not sitting on it =/= getting rid of it
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Thoughts and prayers!
Well it's a good thing they have all that priceless art they can sell...
They could always start selling indulgences again!
In fact, they could even expand beyond the traditional Catholic market. Even Muslims get into Catholic heaven if they're willing to cut a big enough check! Maybe you can get some atheist billionaire to buy a $1 billion "just in case" indulgence.
They don't need to sell anything. They're sitting on the horde of Rome's wealth along with all the nazi gold the church took in during WWII. They have the wealth to easily pay their debts but would rather enter into bankruptcy than actually pay them.
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Aww geez, our 1500 year old grift isn’t working as well as it used to, sad!
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I'm going to need a really, /really/ small violin.
Anyone think this is some independently verified fact?
THEY’RE CLAIMING THIS TO GET OUT OF PAYING ALL THE LAWSUITS they get because of all the r4pe & 4bus3 of little children
What little concessions they made to progressives was far too little too late while former popes sided with child abusers and rapists.
The joke is that Francis was still too far left for the big money Opus Dei Catholics in The United States and Europe.
They weren't friendly enough to the rapists. That's why the donations are drying up
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Gods plan
Time to start selling Indulgences again.
Of course people are blaming him being too accepting of trans people, his view of "let them survive but they're sinners unwelcome to the eucharist" is unfortunately far too progressive for some.
Fortunately the church of Jesus of Nazareth will prioritize profit over peace and love
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Good
Can all the nations they stole artifacts and trinkets from get them back when they declare bankruptcy? /s
Why is there a sarcasm? It's a legit question.
It's probably asked sarcastically because they know it would never happen.
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I am an agnostic so my opinion might not be worth anything to Christians (or Catholics specifically), but I don't really see the point in organized church structures. If you believe in God, support his ideals, why do you need to go to church anyway, or at least why would you want your local church support some big hierarchy (often with controversial opinions or actions) for your money?
Same reason people go to comicons or music concerts or protests. People just want to be with others who believe in and like the same things as they do. It's a pretty simple and basic human behavior.
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Have they tried institutionally raping children and covering it up for decades if not centuries?
Oh, they have... Darn.
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Nice
Maybe donating and praying to your favorite imaginary sky buddy doesn't actually solve anything.
Even if this is true, 2025 is a jubilee year. There will be so many pilgrims to the Vatican and donations would skyrocket
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