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[–] Whorehoarder@lemmynsfw.com 170 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Didn't millennials watch it growing up? Someone's not getting their generational terms right

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 40 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Hell, I was even old enough when it was airing to think it was overrated then.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Seinfeld is one of the best sitcoms of all time.

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 118 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Ummmm, the whole point of the show was that the people were horrible.

The show ended with them jailed after they made fun of a guy who was getting mugged.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 68 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The gang on It's Always Sunny is worse but they are obviously not people we're supposed to empathise with. It's quite a bit less obvious on Seinfeld.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

Always Sunny was taking the idea of Seinfeld and dialing it up to 11.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel like the distinction is that on Sunny the gang is “punished” for their shitty behavior, and on Seinfeld they basically never were. (I don’t include the season finale because that was just a cop-out to give the show an ending.)

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I might be overthinking it but feel like Seinfeld was more a show about normal people who sometimes do shitty things - just like real life. I can't think of anything truly horrible any of them did on the show, just a bunch of "social" wrongdoing. Telling a secret, sleeping at work, the perfect comeback, etc. It's famously a show about "nothing"

Then IASIP is about a bunch of assholes riling each other up to be horrible for their own benefit.

I think Seinfeld is the more "important" in the grand scheme of television for it's groundbreaking approach but in a vacuum, IAS is the better show.

[–] hollyberries@programming.dev 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Jerry purposely drugging his girlfriend so he could play with her toys was pretty shitty AND horrible.

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[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Millennial here. I tried to watch Seinfeld back in the day, and I thought it was kind of meh. But there was one character I really hated on the show. He had a whiny pathetic voice, was always complaining about something or another, and was just an awful actor, unlike the rest of the cast. I thought, if they just removed that one guy, the show would be great and I'd enjoy it so much more.

I found out later, that guy was Seinfeld. So... I never really got into the show.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

THANK YOU! I can't stand that guy. His voice kills me and I never found him funny. Nothing against him personally, he might be a great person, but I can't understand how people can stand the content he makes.

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

~~Good~~ news! Seinfeld is a pedophile and supposedly kind of a sociopath. He's also tried to hop on the anti-woke train a couple of times in the past few years.

The man made a major contribution to western cultus as a whole, but man is he a bastard.

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 week ago (5 children)

He was definitely the weakest actor of the 4, and had the poorest story lines.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Millennials are like 40 years old now. Does this article writer think Millennial just means "kid"?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Millennials are like 40 years old now.

PS. I'm not actually 40 but I'm getting there before I even realise it.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 week ago

I just turned 40. It's fine. Same joints ache as when I turned 30, less heartburn (because I've figured out my triggers).

[–] Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

It’s worded like we’re all still in our early 20s.

It’s just hot clickbait garbage for boomers

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[–] stinerman@midwest.social 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's weird that "this group of people don't like that show that you like" is supposed to create some sort of negative reaction. My enjoyment of a thing does not depend on a certain number of other people liking it.

I must be numb to "outrage is the best way to engage people" that everyone uses these days.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

To be fair, Outrage Marketing does work, but it usually isn't this obvious.

Like when Disney announced that the Snow White remake would have Seven Multicolored Normal Sized Human People? And later it turned out the final movie will indeed have dwarves?

That was just done to get bigots talking about the flick. Wouldn't be surprised to learn Aerial being black in the newer Mermaid movie was the same thing. I mean it worked, people were too busy defending Disney from criticism for this move that they didn't notice the movie is, like most Live Action Remakes of Non-Live Action media, shit.

Hey Disney, bring back your 2D Animation, have them do another Lion King, then dub it over with the audio for the Mufasa film. I guarantee I'll actually consider watching the damn thing if you do that. (These Live Action remakes have got to be a Money Laundering scheme or something)

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For the first time? We grew up with this show.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ya know how growing up, our parents called every system a "Nintendo", even if it was clearly a Playstation or a Sega Genesis?

Yeah that's what boomers do with age groups. Anyone younger than them is a "Millenial Zoomer on Youtube's TikTok app"

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[–] You_are_dust@lemm.ee 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We were the ones watching it when it was first airing. I don't think there was anyone in my highschool that wasn't watching it.

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are we talking about "Seinfeld", the slightly overrated comedy TV series, or "Seinfeld", the horrible human being?

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It’s not offensive, it’s just not that funny.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

97% of Seinfeld's entertainment value is the bass line.

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[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Meh, Jerry Seinfeld has been pushing the "I'm too offensive for young people" and "I've been cancelled" nonsense for a while now. He's just old and not funny anymore. Turns out telling the same jokes for 30 years doesn't get a lot of laughs. What is the deal with millennials anyway!

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[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm an Xer and I didn't like Seinfeld, but that's mostly because I don't like embarrassment comedy. It's the same reason I don't like Will Ferrel and Ben Stiller, but to each their own. I don't begrudge anyone else finding it funny, it's just not my vibe.

[–] blipcast@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I'm not saying you have to like Seinfeld or anything, but I wouldn't consider it embarrassment comedy. It's more about the gang being a bunch of sociopaths, like an early version of IASIP.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

That right there is some clickbait. I'm millennial and I was watching the show when it was on and loved it.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (5 children)

What‽ I grew up on it and I'm as young as we get. No it's his current stand up that's in poor taste and one night of Kramer's stand-up that's actually offensive

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[–] dumbass@leminal.space 25 points 1 week ago

Would you leave us the fuck alone, we're old now!

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Almost every time an article like this is posted, the contents are the result of one or two comments out of thousands, or a Reddit post that didn't gain much traction outside of "eh, sure, I guess?"

Tangentially related, IMO there should be an "author review" site, where if someone posts a stupid article like this, it is referenced in a database against their name and their frame of reference for the content is called out. Rank "journalists" against this, and eventually the people starting out in the industry posting AI-generated shite that doesn't hold up will start to err on the side of caution.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You've just re-invented journalistic standards and peer review.

It is how the news cycle is supposed to work. One journalist says something, others verify or disprove it publicly.

The problem is that there is now no difference between journalism and content or between news channels and platforms.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I found it funny but curb your enthusiasm is much better

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[–] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 week ago (15 children)

I watched the first episode and found it dull and boring. Is it representative for the whole show?

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The past decade of tv has spoiled people with quality TV shows.

Back in the old days of tv, we didn't have story arcs. First seasons of shows were still rough. Networks often gave shows a lot longer of a lifeline to prove themselves. For example: Parks and Rec didn't hit their stride into mid-Season 2.

For 90s shows, I recommend finding a Top 10 episodes list and seeing if you enjoy it.

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[–] noxy@yiffit.net 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They said "not that there's anything wrong with that" about gay people in the 90s. WAY better than most of the shit at the time.

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[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

Must be the youngest millennials then, this was airing live when I was a kid and apparently I’m a millennial.

[–] BedInspector@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Not saying it's not funny, but there is definitely stuff in the show that wouldn't fly today. For example there is an episode where George didn't know black people ate salad.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 26 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I don't like Seinfeld, but isn't George supposed to be an utter dunce?

Like, as a Zoomer, people not being able to tell the difference between portraying bigotry and endorsing it IS an actual problem I see.

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[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it's the laugh track that's offensive.

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[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

most of my millennial peers were all in on Friends and thought Seinfeld was pretty much only for old people. it had its cultural moment but it was popular because pretty much everyone older than 30 in the 90s loved the show.

Basically people who are around 50/60 now were the ones who truly enjoyed Seinfeld.

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[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even when it aired, it was walking the line of generally offensive. That line didn't have to move far to tip the show out of favour on average. Seinfeld himself addressed it, initially being upset that his brand of comedy was falling out of favour, but eventually coming to terms with the fact that he himself was out of touch and would benefit from adapting.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Has he? Last I heard he was still complaining that "yOu CoUlDnT dO sEiNfElD tOdAy BeCaUsE wOkE" with Rob McElhenney begging to differ.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/celebrity/jerry-seinfeld-said-regrets-comments-blaming-extreme-left-ruining-come-rcna175678

Hopefully that link isn't broken or bad. But yeah, he basically said he was wrong and out of touch. And that he could stand to make an effort to get with the times.

His style of comedy has always been about finding where the current edge is and seeing how far you can cross it and still be funny. But the drawback is that the edge moves. So you have to keep seeing where it is, and what you said 10 years ago probably isn't funny anymore. It's normal to get frustrated when something you put effort and work into is no longer seen as a good thing even though it was liked well enough at the time. But he really should have expected that result. And I think he knew that when he made it, but had since got caught up in the false validation that can come from being out of touch.

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If they(we) think Seinfeld is offensive, what do they think of IASIP?

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